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cdcox 09-17-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5030138)
No offense, Mr. cdcox (none whatsoever, actually), but my team is going to kick your team's ass for several years while your FO tries to get your guys under contract. I hope you don't get no injuries or nothin'.

FAX

Since you are in salary cap hell, I'll have your QB, OL and DL under contract in 2 years any way. BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Mr. Laz 09-17-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5030138)
No offense, Mr. cdcox (none whatsoever, actually), but my team is going to kick your team's ass for several years while your FO tries to get your guys under contract. I hope you don't get no injuries or nothin'.

FAX

yep .. but your team is a 1-shot wonder

as soon as you lose your current crop of players to free agency,injuries and retirement you will suck forever.

Cd and i on the other hand will be expansion teams for a few years and then we will start kicking you in the nuts every year.

cdcox 09-17-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5030137)
Yea but see once you get that QB you can focus on other things.

Worked for the Saints and Pats. Oh, wait...

Mecca 09-17-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5030158)
Worked for the Saints and Pats. Oh, wait...

Uh explain that.....

Chiefnj2 09-17-2008 07:36 PM

This is too much work: QB highest, OL then DL.

cdcox 09-17-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5030163)
Uh explain that.....

Saints under Archie Manning were terrible, even though Manning was a great QB.

Pats drafted Plunkett #1. Definitely the first hyped QB I saw (I was in grade school). Think Elway or Manning in terms of hype. Never did anything with the Pats. They were terrible for years. Yet Plunkett was a good QB as evidenced by his late career.

Mr. Laz 09-17-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5030147)
Meh. The average coaching tenure in the NFL is 4.3 years. Most 'long' tenures are only 10-15 years. The longest I can think of was Don Shula's 25 years, but he never got past the 2nd round of the playoffs during his final 11 years. Even great coaching has its limitations and doesn't last forever. Many coaches who have success in one place also struggle to build from the ground up elsewhere.

there is no coaching salary cap ... i will keep my top guys paid at the top of the league.

Mecca 09-17-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5030173)
Saints under Archie Manning were terrible, even though Manning was a great QB.

Pats drafted Plunkett #1. Definitely the first hyped QB I saw (I was in grade school). Think Elway or Manning in terms of hype. Never did anything with the Pats. They were terrible for years. Yet Plunkett was a good QB as evidenced by his late career.

That makes them an inept organization, much like the Dolphins were for years never getting Marino anything to work with.

Rain Man 09-18-2008 05:49 PM

So the average among the people who answered (normalized to 100) is this:

Quarterback: 21
Running Back: 4
WR/TE: 4
O-Line: 6
Kicking/Returning: 3
Kick Coverage: 2
D-Line: 5
Linebackers: 4
Defensive Backs: 4
Salary Cap Management: 6
Scouting/Player Evaluation: 13
Position Coaching/Player Development: 13
Game Planning/Coordinator Ability/Talent: 15

According to Planet Wisdom, coaching and management is 47 percent of a team's strength, offense is 35 percent, defense is 13 percent, and special teams is 5 percent. I'm not sure that coaching should be that high, though I agree that it's very important.

The most important things, according to this exercise, are quarterback, which is not a strength for KC right now, and game planning, which is an enormous weakness. I'm not convinced that our position coaching is up to par, either.

MahiMike 09-18-2008 06:18 PM

I was under the impression there would be no math involved...

MahiMike 09-18-2008 06:20 PM

O-line - 40 pts
WR's - 10 pts
QB - 15
D-line - 15 pts
Secondary - 15 pts
Rest - 5 pts

ChiefsCountry 09-18-2008 06:21 PM

A top flight QB, stud OL and DL. Thats the ticket, trenches and a QB.

beach tribe 09-18-2008 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5032706)
A top flight QB, stud OL and DL. Thats the ticket, trenches and a QB.

Already said by a few, and complete truth.

QB, OL, DL=success.

Tribal Warfare 09-18-2008 08:07 PM

OL,DL, RB, QB

beach tribe 09-18-2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5032966)
OL,DL, RB, QB

If you have the top tier O-line, RB is not much of a priority.IMO


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