Oh I know, it's just mind numbing. There is no plan by Herm. He doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Any team he's had that has been good is because of the previous coach's hand-me-down players and schemes. While trying to build his own team in NY, the same thing happened there, as it is here right now.

I don't think anyone told Herm that in rebuilding you are expected to atleast be competent if you are 0-16 or 1-15 bad you are still subject to getting fired even in a rebuild.

When he does get fired, he will be up there with Gun and Frank Ganz as one of the worst coaches to lead this team.

Here's the real question, some people think he's in no danger of getting fired...if that actually happens we'll know all we need to know about Clark.

I agree. I will still be a fan of this team, but I will have no faith in the direction of it.

When we are actually having a convo about if 0-16 will get a coach fired or not that's pretty bad.

REAL bad and REAL sad.

If Herm gets fired, can it be after next Aprils draft? He is a great drafter, and we need that more than anything else at this point.

Explain to me how he's great, I'm not trying to be an asshole here I'm just saying I don't think he's great, he's better than Vermiel but a reeruned monkey could accomplish that.

I believe you were ecstatic on draft day with how he drafted. The young guys are almost all looking to be major contributors to this team. The last draft went pretty well too. This is the best drafting of Carl's tenure since his first couple with Marty. I think that is pretty good basis for my opinion.

This past draft was good but it should have been, 2 first round picks, picks at the top of each round....and we'll really see how good it was in 2 years.

Right now we can start to judge the 2006 class and as of now it looks like a stinky pile of shit.

The 2007 class right now will get a slightly above average grade, that is subject to change.

The way things are going,I really think we will end up seeing Ingle Martin starting a game for us this year

Hairy Ingle Martin.....Hairy Ingle sounds like a medical condition.

2006 Picks

Tamba Hali: C-
Bernard Pollard: C-
Brodie Croyle: C-
Herm Edwards: F-
Marcus Maxey: F
Tre' Stallings: D-
Jeff Webb: C-
Jarrad Page: B+


2007 Picks

Dwayne Bowe: A-
Turk McBride: C-
Tank Tyler: C
Kolby Smith: B+
Justin Medlock: F-
Herb Taylor: B
Michael Allan: C

I can't give Taylor a grade till he plays in a real game.

For the most part we agree on those grades though.