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petegz28 09-23-2008 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5046479)
The Chiefs have in general had very very little foresight when it comes to making decisions, it's been that way for a long time.

Olinemen generally play at a high level for a long time, those are guys that should get 2nd contracts...RB's and CB's shouldn't....this is a team that paid guys like Eric Warfield and Jerome Woods.

Like I said, it's obvious Carl only wants to take care of Chiefs business when he has too.

I think that has how he has been since Marty left. He will do whatever he can to pacify the fans, sign Vermeil, or Surtain, bring back Edwards, making negotiating with Priest and LJ a spectacle, etc.

I just woke up on the wrong side of the couch this morning I guess.

Rooster 09-23-2008 07:33 AM

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morphius 09-23-2008 07:53 AM

Anyone complaining about Tait just hasn't been paying attention, when another team pays left tackle money + some to get a right tackle, well, you just don't match that offer.

oldandslow 09-23-2008 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 5046610)
Anyone complaining about Tait just hasn't been paying attention, when another team pays left tackle money + some to get a right tackle, well, you just don't match that offer.

I AM paying attention...we are 30 million under the cap...Tait and Lilja would take about a third of that - but the line is fixed.

You certainly DO match the offer. People making decisions like you just did are the reason we have lost 12 in a row.

morphius 09-23-2008 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 5046618)
I AM paying attention...we are 30 million under the cap...Tait and Lilja would take about a third of that - but the line is fixed.

You certainly DO match the offer. People making decisions like you just did are the reason we have lost 12 in a row.

LMAO! Lilja I'll give you, but RT is a lot easier if you have a GM that is worth a crap, and at that time, we were at the cap.

Bowser 09-23-2008 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5046485)
Lilja is the one that really hurts. We'd have three serviceable lineman right now instead of just two. That makes a hell of a difference. It's gonna be damned hard to fix this line in just one more offseason.

What makes that one sting even more is him being a local kid.

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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 5046628)
LMAO! Lilja I'll give you, but RT is a lot easier if you have a GM that is worth a crap, and at that time, we were at the cap.

I honestly think Herb Taylor would be a better right tackle. Move Mac back to left and backup Albert, and give Taylor a shot at starting at right. Really, what do we have to lose?

DaKCMan AP 09-23-2008 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 5046618)
I AM paying attention...we are 30 million under the cap...Tait and Lilja would take about a third of that - but the line is fixed.

You certainly DO match the offer. People making decisions like you just did are the reason we have lost 12 in a row.

Were we $30 million under the cap when Tait's signed that contract in 2004?

You're absolutely right. Not giving John Tait LT money to be an 'ok' RT is the exact reason we've lost 12 in a row. The dumbassery on this board is, at times, epic.

L.A. Chieffan 09-23-2008 08:24 AM

Wait a sec, wait a sec.....are you saying.....are you saying our G.M. sucks?

OMG!?!1!/!

morphius 09-23-2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5046656)
What makes that one sting even more is him being a local kid.

I honestly think Herb Taylor would be a better right tackle. Move Mac back to left and backup Albert, and give Taylor a shot at starting at right. Really, what do we have to lose?

Yup, I want them to give one of the young guys a shot, McIntosh is just embarrassing and going to get someone killed.

Rooster 09-23-2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5046664)
The dumbassery on this board is, at times, epic.

Quote of the Year. :thumb:

ShortRoundChief 09-23-2008 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 5046618)
I AM paying attention...we are 30 million under the cap...Tait and Lilja would take about a third of that - but the line is fixed.

You certainly DO match the offer. People making decisions like you just did are the reason we have lost 12 in a row.

well then you call chicago and tell them we finally decided to match their offer for tait.

sedated 09-23-2008 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5046664)
giving John Tait LT money to be an 'ok' RT

I wouldn't exactly say Tait is an 'ok' RT, he was pretty dominant over there, and has been good at LT in CHI.

That being said, what is the statute of limitations for b!tching about player moves? Where's the Joe Horn thread?

DaKCMan AP 09-23-2008 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 5046831)
I wouldn't exactly say Tait is an 'ok' RT, he was pretty dominant over there, and has been good at LT in CHI.

That being said, what is the statute of limitations for b!tching about player moves?

Brian Waters was dominant too when playing on a line that featured Willie Roaf and Will Shields. Now he sucks. Tait plays RT in Chicago, not LT. He just gets paid like a LT.

sedated 09-23-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5046841)
Brian Waters was dominant too when playing on a line that featured Willie Roaf and Will Shields. Now he sucks.

is that why he constantly dominates Glen "the best DT prospect since Warren Sapp" Dorsey?

Deberg_1990 09-23-2008 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5046459)
tait is so over paid....

Probably. Hes never even made the Pro Bowl.


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