all the mind games and shit and all, but if you have a serious addiction no amount of mind games is going keep it from coming in your body. the drug is just #1 in your life

The one thing I didn't like getting help is they would make you feel like shit. I know I ****ed up or I would be here I need something to laugh at or something to take that 100 pound gorilla of guilt off my back, but it just seems most programs show you what damage can be done from it first. The thing about it is most people never truely stop for good unless they are rock bottom. It's just hard

I'd reiterate some of what others have said. I think a lot of it comes down to really making up your mind. Unfortunately it sometimes takes something horrible to happen to you first for you to really make up your mind. Good luck man.

Also if you can get off to a good start on your way to sobriety I think you will find life more refreshing.

I don't know if you are a competitive person, but that's the way I tackle addictions, whether they be as simple as caffeine or something more serious. It's you (with family and friends) versus your addiction. And you can kick it's ass. Once you start having some success you will feel rejuvenated with life, IMO.

making your mind is the toughest for me. when i think of beer or anything I think of good times and relaxing and the way it makes me feel. I never truely want to let go of the drug, so I never truely give a good effort to quit. When I did quit it feels like someone died. Just a constant kick in the face by life. Nothing was good. The one thing I can look forward to the weekend was cracking open 30 of my closest friends (natty light) so I have managed the guilt and the anxiety by just saying "if it kills me it kills me" because for me I just don't have a good reason to quit, but on a side note if you go to alchohol boards you can see how closely people think with the drinking problem. Most people start by starting a thread "Do i have a drinking problem" or "am I a alchoholic" ok so if you are starting that thread or visiting a site you have a problem, but it always starts like "I ****ed some guy and now I feel bad, or I get way to drunk at parties" That is how the shit starts. The next part.. if you never get help is the same ****ing story. I got a DUI or I Fell down and hurt myself. You wouldn't believe how many drunks a year die just by falling down.

what I ment to put is on booze message boards you will see...and scare you how close people think alike

Simply Red and Demonpenz waxing phillosophic. It's a good day to buy a powerball ticket, or prepare for armageddon. Either.

That scared the shit out of me.

I know where you are coming from. I don't know if you are ready to quit. That is a very personal decision. Everyone has their own reasons on why they want too and what motivates them.

Not being familiar with your specific situation, perhaps trying to moderate yourself off is an option?. I know when I quit smoking and I started working out my body finally just told me flat out it did not want cigs. But it took a while to get it out of my system.
I quite cold turkey but I know what you are saying. Whatever road you choose it won't be easy that much is for sure.

Yeah I am dumb on here, but I am serious about alchohol problems. I have lost to many buddies from just depression and addiction. That poison will just own your life. I don't find much humor in people anymore that are like Dude i was sooooo wated the other day... or shit like that, because there are people that drink some beers in the garage and have a good time. Then there are people like me who are flat out drug abusers. Just chigging whiskey or beer trying to escape. It's wrong, it hurts others, and it will eventually kill you. What a dumbass reason to die

No.