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I did a bit of looking and found many site claiming X number of people have been executed and later found innocent. Strangely I could not find specific examples. I would think it would take a strange combination of circumstances for a dead man to be later exonerated. This in my opinion on this subject.
In civil matters one must only prove their case by a preponderance of the evidence. Criminal matters have must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. If we are to continue to execute people I think there should be an even higher standard applied to those cases. The judicial system is a branch of our government. Our government is by its very nature Incompetent. I am not comfortable with the government making life and death decisions. Just MHO

According to Democrats don't the wealthiest deserve to be punished? I would think the death penalty coupled with the estate tax laws would be a perfect form of wealth redistribution. All we have to do is figure out a way to make the Bill Gates's of the world kill and rape more people.

Punkin.

Again, if more wealthy white men were executed would you support the death penalty?

The economics line is bull****! People who commit murder are executed because they committed murder, not because they are poor. If a rich man is convicted of murder( there are 100's of examples) he can't buy his way out of it. Some might argue he could buy his way out of being convicted, but the death penaly implies conviction...

The simple fact is that poor people are more likely to commit murder while in the act of committing another crime (ie. robbery)...

The death penalty is a RESULT and therefore cannot be judged along socio-economic lines. If you want to help the poor, find out why they are more likely to COMMIT CRIMES, not more likely to be executed.

By the way, I happen to believe that both abortion and the death penalty are wrong...

Look if somone is a serial killer and is on the loose that's an extreme case. For every one of these serial killers that is put death there are literally hundreds of underclass people on death row who were misrepresented and didn't get a fair trial. Until everyone gets a truly fair trial there will always be a flawed system.

Those "underpriveleged" as you call them are often defended by public defenders, trained by and working in the same system as the public prosecutors...seems like a fair fight to me...

If you truly want equity, give all accused 1st degree murderers a public defender, regardless of income...

I'm not talking about race Mr. Blond I'm talking about the fact that the poor are more often misrepresented. Your Bill gates theory holds know weight.

This has turned out to be a very good discussion and I hope all of you will considered what I said. By the way Mr. Blond I'm not a democrat.

So if wealthy people regardless of race were executed in greater numbers you would support it? Are you against the death penalty as immoral and wrong? Or do you just want more rich people included?

I am guessing by your tag line you are not rank and file GOP.

Iowian, agreed having this in march. But it did come up and inflames me.

Public Drunk...

As expected...

My sister was raped. She took a spermacide later. My wife, when younger, used abortion as birth control. I felt like you before...rape/incest/hurt the mom/defective baby...all as reason enough for an abortion.

I will assume that you don't have kids?? THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!!!!!!!

From all of the above "reasons", what's wrong with ADOPTATION? There are a ton of folks who would love to have a baby.

To me it is clear cut.

BTW I'm not for killing anybody. I do whoever think that the death penalty has some limited use. We need more deterence. I don't feel we should have to pay $36000 a year to house a convicted murderer. If everyone that was a CONVICTED, to include DNA investigation, MURDERER swung. I think we would have less of a crime problem.

I'm done, I got what I wanted from PD except if he had kids??

What I'm saying is that wealth and social status shouldn't give anyone the right to be above the law. I've got to go but everyone should seriously consider my point.

By the way punkin, I am not a democrate either.

The economic argument doesn't support the death penalty...

It costs more for the appeals and such to condemn someone to death than it does to confine them for 99 years...

Punkin,

Maybe the poor don't always get the best representation, but they still get a jury of their peers. That's 12 everyday people that live with taking another life on their concience. I don't believe you could find 12 people that take that responsibility lightly.

As far as the original topic, which has been argued over and over and over again... what representation do the unborn get???



understanding there will never be agreement on this topic...