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Reerun_KC 12-29-2008 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337370)
You realize both Carolina and the Steelers have a running game and solid defenses. I do not know how a QB, no matter how good he is, is going to win anything without either a solid running game and a solid defense to support him?
Agree to a point.... And its okay to disagree....

HC_Chief 12-29-2008 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5337313)
I can't stand KK, but I'm almost to the point where I can't listen to Neal anymore. "Do you think Tyler Thigpen is the man, yes or no? Give us a call."
"Um, I think he's the man, cause he runs around."
"No, he's never gonna be an NFL QB"
repeat 50 times
Same thing with Herm. "Should Herm be fired, yes or no? Give us a call."
For 4 hours, come on.
I know today is different because there's an expectaion that Herm could be fired but Neal's topics for discussion are so limited. When you listen to shows in other markets people can call in and discuss a variety of topics: baseball, NBA, other football teams in other cities. But for some reason in KC it's "This segment we're talking strictly about ___." It gets tedious.
Yeah, Neal Jones is a fuqtard, no doubt about that. Not that KK is any better...

Ultra Peanut 12-29-2008 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5337295)
9 of the 12 remaining in the playoffs this year are all 1st round picks...
But it's too risky. There's only a ~50% chance you'll get a Pro Bowl QB with your top five pick.

DJ's left nut 12-29-2008 03:55 PM
TYLER THIGPENS QB RATING IS LOWER THAN JAMARCUS RUSSELL'S!!!

Jeebuz folks, what more needs to be said? His line is better than Oaklands, his offense was better suited for passing than Oakland's, his WRs are better than Oaklands and still JaMarcus Russell had a better season.

JAMARCUS. RUSSELL.

blaise 12-29-2008 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 5337386)
But it's too risky. There's only a ~50% chance you'll get a Pro Bowl QB with your top five pick.
Scared money don't make money.

Ultra Peanut 12-29-2008 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337370)
You realize both Carolina and the Steelers have a running game and solid defenses. I do not know how a QB, no matter how good he is, is going to win anything without either a solid running game and a solid defense to support him?
And the Chiefs of the '90s show that the inverse is true, as well.

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5337389)
Scared money don't make money.
We should just trade down and take a tackle.

blaise 12-29-2008 03:58 PM
What a frigging disaster they are. Seriously. They're worse than the Lions.

suds79 12-29-2008 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5337313)
I can't stand KK, but I'm almost to the point where I can't listen to Neal anymore. "Do you think Tyler Thigpen is the man, yes or no? Give us a call."
"Um, I think he's the man, cause he runs around."
"No, he's never gonna be an NFL QB"
repeat 50 times
Same thing with Herm. "Should Herm be fired, yes or no? Give us a call."
For 4 hours, come on.
I know today is different because there's an expectaion that Herm could be fired but Neal's topics for discussion are so limited. When you listen to shows in other markets people can call in and discuss a variety of topics: baseball, NBA, other football teams in other cities. But for some reason in KC it's "This segment we're talking strictly about ___." It gets tedious.
:clap: That's funny because you nailed it.

He does do that crap a lot.

I kinda like Chris & Cowboy's show on 610 from 9-11. Their arguments seem to make more sense to me.

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:11 PM
I'm not a huge fan of KK but I agree with him on his Thigpen and drafting a QB thing.

petegz28 12-29-2008 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5337378)
What round was Trent Dilfer Drafted in? Hint he was drafted in 1994 by Tampa Bay...
I assume you wil say 1st round. But I would hardly say he was the proverbial 1st round type once he played in the NFL. But I could say, what round was Brady drafted in?

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337442)
I assume you wil say 1st round. But I would hardly say he was the proverbial 1st round type once he played in the NFL. But I could say, what round was Brady drafted in?
It's playing the odds 16 of the last 29 QB's to win a bowl are 1st rounder...6 of the 13 that aren't are accounted for by 2 players.

It's basically a 99% chance that a 1st round pick will win the the bowl this year upping the number again.

BigChiefFan 12-29-2008 04:15 PM
I hate to pile on but Neal Jones is a homer deluxe and not very insightful, when it comes to sports.

petegz28 12-29-2008 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 5337390)
And the Chiefs of the '90s show that the inverse is true, as well.

We should just trade down and take a tackle.
The Chiefs made the mistake of letting Carl dictate that Grbac started instead of Gannon in the playoffs. Otherwise we could of won. Hell even with Bono if the damn kicker makes 2 FG's we win. It can be argued both ways, for sure. But I think if we stick a top rated QB in our offense right now we are going to see our 2nd and 3rd string QB's anyway.

Too many nightmares of our line allowing Huard to get sacked as soon as he took the snap.

petegz28 12-29-2008 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337444)
It's playing the odds 16 of the last 29 QB's to win a bowl are 1st rounder...6 of the 13 that aren't are accounted for by 2 players.

It's basically a 99% chance that a 1st round pick will win the the bowl this year upping the number again.
I don't disagree. But odds are just that. I am not saying to ink Thigy as the starter. Just give him a fair shot in the offseason to compete.

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:17 PM
You know why Carl wouldn't draft a QB high right? Picks like that if they don't work out get people fired, he played it safe and then talked up the fear of it so people would buy into it.


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