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StcChief 01-15-2009 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5394068)
I don't think we'll take one at #3, but I bet in a later round we do.
this. BPA at #3. or trade down.

Basileus777 01-15-2009 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5394109)
Tidbit from a Kiper chat:

Derek (Kansas City, MO): The Chiefs hold the #3 pick and now have a competent GM to use the pick in Scott Pioli. Pioli never used a high draft-pick on a QB in New England, so do you think he will take Matt Stafford with the #3 pick, or address O-line or defense help?

Mel Kiper: If you look at Pioli, Tyler Thigpen was a late round pick and they hit with Brady and Cassel in the late rounds. They have to evaluate Tyler Thigpen. They have needs at DE. They did not make up for the loss of Jared Allen. The WR position, they have Bowe, but they need a little more help. They need help on the second line at LB. In Pioli's case, if he thinks Thigpen is right for the job, then he can address those other positions.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=24555
I don't think you can extrapolate from what happened in New England that Pioli doesn't like to draft QBs high. They had Bledsoe and then Brady, they never had any need to spend a high pick on a QB.

Crybaby Power 01-15-2009 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5394077)
Does a good D somehow improve his gross inaccuracy?
No but when you're scoring roughly 24pts a game, with a good defense that usually wins you football games.


Funny how some still dont realize this even after the DV years.

Fritz88 01-15-2009 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5394077)
Does a good D somehow improve his gross inaccuracy?
If our D held on to the 25+ points he helped score every game. i don't think we would be having this conversation.

I really do believe that Flacco is a slightly above average QB and it's his D that's lifting him.

Thig Lyfe 01-15-2009 03:03 PM
Thiggy is going to ****ing tear it up next season.

That said, we should draft somebody in case he doesn't.

Rooster 01-15-2009 03:05 PM
I would like to draft a QBOTF type and turn Thiggy into a slot receiver ala Wes Welker.

BigMeatballDave 01-15-2009 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5394146)
If our D held on to the 25+ points he helped score every game. i don't think we would be having this conversation.

I really do believe that Flacco is a slightly above average QB and it's his D that's lifting him.
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Originally Posted by Samoan Power (Post 5394136)
No but when you're scoring roughly 24pts a game, with a good defense that usually wins you football games.


Funny how some still dont realize this even after the DV years.
Puke

Hammock Parties 01-15-2009 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5394153)
Thiggy is going to ****ing tear it up next season.
The KC night life is full of hotties.

BigMeatballDave 01-15-2009 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5394146)
I really do believe that Flacco is a slightly above average QB and it's his D that's lifting him.
Have you seen Flacco's deep ball? Yeah, Thig has wet dreams about it...

Crybaby Power 01-15-2009 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5394153)
Thiggy is going to ****ing tear it up next season.

That said, we should draft somebody in case he doesn't.
I agree, just doesnt need to be a top 3 pick. We have other HUGE glaring needs.

Crybaby Power 01-15-2009 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5394178)
Have you seen Flacco's deep ball? Yeah, Thig has wet dreams about it...
Flacco has a ****in cannon that even Croyle wish he even had.

That 25-30 yd out pass he threw was ****in nuts. thats pretty much equivalent to darting a ball 45-50 yds

keg in kc 01-15-2009 03:11 PM
When he was talking about taking a QB virtually annually, he didn't in any way infer that meant drafting a QB high. He mentioned Pioli finding Brady in the 6th and Cassel in the 7th. I got the impression, in that light, that he was talking about taking a flyer on a mid- to late-round day pick every year, which we've already been doing (well, technically we've been trading for other teams low round draft picks, like Thigpen, Smoker, etc). Hopefully Pioli does a better job at it.

He did, however, state the position is an important one.

As for Thigpen, I doubt Pioli even knows what Pioli thinks about him at this point. Much less has a clue who we're taking at 3.

BigMeatballDave 01-15-2009 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Samoan Power (Post 5394180)
I agree, just doesnt need to be a top 3 pick. We have other HUGE glaring needs.
Um, QB IS a HUGE glaring need. :rolleyes:

The_Doctor10 01-15-2009 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5394178)
Have you seen Flacco's deep ball? Yeah, Thig has wet dreams about it...
Flacco and Thigpen put up almost identical numbers.

Flacco: 257/428, 2971 Yards 14 TD 12 INT 80.3 QB rating
Thigpen: 230/420 2608 Yards 18 TD 14 INT 76.0 QB rating

Thigpen wasn't the starter for half the season. Flacco was a 1st round pick who was the starter coming out of camp. The only real difference between the two of them seems to be that Thigpen can scramble, and Flacco has a deep ball. Based on those two sets of numbers, and Joe Flacco's supporting cast vs Thigpen's, can you really say there's a huge difference between the two?

beavis 01-15-2009 04:31 PM
I feel much more comfortable with Pioli drafting a QB in the later rounds than Carl. I think it's safe to say he's proven that they can be found.


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