Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469618)

This is hilarious. What's sad is not that "this generation doesn't know what this feels like," but that this is MU's National Championship game. KU plays for the real ones.

And to say that MU and KU were anywhere near equal in basketball at any point in history like this article makes it sound is absolutely hysterical.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5469686)

as many times as you want my friend.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 4432779)

Grew up in KC metro area where it's pretty much 50-50 KU MU. Played bball most of my life studying the KU transition offense, went to the KU Team camps, met great KU legends, love Roy Williams as a coach, the history.....etc Whats there not to like about KU bball with the exeception of Sasha Kaun?

Now, MU football, I've liked since I really started to watch college football. I actually got into pro football long before I got into college football. Never really cared for KU football, but then again never really hated it either.

However I never really took in the whole KU MU rivalry outside of just bball. I will not root for MU basketball and it all starts with my hatred towards Norm Stewart, the Marty Schottenheimer of the NCAA, never could advance to a final four in one million years of coaching. He's the best mediocre coach in NCAA history. That's just how I grew up.

Then a decision was made to go to MU for school because it was the better school, better town, period. With the exception of the Phog, I absolutely hate the KU campus, and downtown Lawrence has nothing on downtown Columbia.

Hey Ive gotten a lot of shit for being a KU bball fan going to MU. still isn't gonna change who I root for though. When it comes to NCAA bball, I bleed crimson and blue.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5469665)

You're ****in reeruned.

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5469693)

I take it you're like 12 years old.

From 1980 up until the Big 12 conference started in 1996, which is the era Gabe is referring to in this piece, Missouri had 7 conference championships, Kansas had 6, and Oklahoma had 4. For all practical purposes, those three teams WERE Big 8 basketball.

Many young ku fans have been a bit spoiled by the huge success Self's teams have had in recent years and think that's just how it always has been, but old time ku fans know that's not the case (even if they might not admit it now).

Thanks for reminding me why I hate ku fans.

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 5469690)

Basketball?

Is that the game played indoor with a round ball?

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 5469690)

Basketball?

Is that the game played indoor with a round ball?

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469701)

Ah, now THAT sounds more like an MU fan!!

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469699)

Actually I am much older than that. I didn't realize existence didn't begin until 1980, as I was referring to the rivalry as a whole. Congrats on that decade though!!

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5469714)

So is this your roundabout way of admitting this statement:



was completely wrong?

Gotcha.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469721)

No, that statement is completely correct.

You think that anyone in the world looked at KU and MU on the same level in basketball because of those years, even during those years?

That's like saying that because Gonzaga has had more success than Indiana for the last few years that anyone in the world looks at them as anywhere near the same level.

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5469736)

Of course they did. You act like KU was seen as the Wooden UCLA teams during at that time. KU had one legit championship, and that was during the 50's.

No one outside of Lawrence saw you as some monster program; a good program, yes, but hardly as dominant as you seem to think you were.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469739)

Oh, so it is only since 1996 that KU has moved up into the upper echelon of college basketball programs. Gotcha. It's crazy to think that only in the last 12 years that KU has gone from being "a good program" into being one of the universally believed top 5 programs in college basketball history.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469678)

That I will agree with. I thought it felt like the article was trying to make it seem like in the good old days, back when KU and MU were equals at basketball...

It's never been like that. Probably never will be.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469739)

Oh, so it is only since 1996 that KU has moved up into the upper echelon of college basketball programs. Gotcha. It's crazy to think that only in the last 12 years that KU has gone from being "a good program" into being one of the universally believed top 5 programs in college basketball history.