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Demonpenz 02-11-2009 01:16 PM
what is the deal with being named Mike Williams. Cedric benson will work out eventually even if it means getting garbage stats.

milkman 02-11-2009 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 5478769)
Roy Williams is a multiple pro bowler, and now that Davis has switched to guard he has been to a pro bowl and is a top five guard.
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Not a Texas fan at all. (CU) but ill bet this thread seemed like a good idea in theory, but when researched it wasn't as loaded with big name busts like imagined. Jammer is decent enough to have been labeled a minor probowl snub and Leonard Davis is a recent probowl guard. Benson is gonna be a starting HB somewhere next yr and Vince Young will get a few more chances before eventually busting. Meanwhile Roy Williams has turned out better than most recent top 10 WRs, he's part of the better case scenario discussion.

Pretty piss poor list that makes the point the other way. HSN1 if I may ask. Who is your favorite college team?
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There isn't a team in the league that would go into the draft hoping to find a pro bowl, or even top 5 guard in the league, with the #2 overall pick.

alanm 02-11-2009 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5478629)
Texas is just one of those schools that doesn't prepare players very well.

I believe all the top 10 guys were covered...if you take it to just 1st round or the school in general the list is not impressive...
I've heard Mike Mayock describe Texas players under Brown as being soft and ill prepared for the NFL. Like it's a country club atmosphere down there. :shrug:

blaise 02-11-2009 01:30 PM
That's pretty much how everyone describes it. On the other hand, that country club atmosphere seems to keep some guys from leaving for the NFL before their senior year.

Buck 02-11-2009 01:35 PM
Quentin Jammer was a bust for his first 4 years in the league, but now he is one of the best DBs in the league.

Basileus777 02-11-2009 01:37 PM
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Quentin Jammer was a bust for his first 4 years in the league, but now he is one of the best DBs in the league.
He's become a good corner, but you're taking it a bit far.

easymobee 02-11-2009 01:41 PM
People don't take guards #2 generally, but Davis is at worst, still the 4th best player of that particular top 10 (depending on how you rank Vick and if should still be considered a better choice). LT, Seymour, Vick, Davis, Andre Carter and maybe Justin Smith are the only 6 of that top 10 that shoulda been 1st rounders at all.
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milkman 02-11-2009 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by easymobee (Post 5480101)
People don't take guards #2 generally, but Davis is at worst, still the 4th best player of that particular top 10 (depending on how you rank Vick and if should still be considered a better choice). LT, Seymour, Vick, Davis, and Andre Carter are the only 5 of that top 10 that shoulda been 1st rounders at all.
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None of that matters.

A #2 overall pick at LT who has to move to guard because he sucks ass playing LT is a bust, regardless of his success at guard.

chiefs1111 02-11-2009 01:46 PM
what about Ricky Williams????

easymobee 02-11-2009 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5480112)
None of that matters.

A #2 overall pick at LT who has to move to guard because he sucks ass playing LT is a bust, regardless of his success at guard.
What is the cutoff point? Early teens? When B. Albert gets. Moved to Guard for good, will he be considered a bust? I concur. You are absolutely right, my apologies.
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milkman 02-11-2009 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by easymobee (Post 5480123)
What is the cutoff point? Early teens? When B. Albert gets. Moved to Guard for good, will he be considered a bust? I concur.
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First, Branden Albert is not going to be moved to guard.

Second, even if he were moved it wouldn't be a bust because in the end it would have to be viewed as a failed project, whereas Davis was supposed to be the next great LT.

The Franchise 02-11-2009 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by easymobee (Post 5480123)
What is the cutoff point? Early teens? When B. Albert gets. Moved to Guard for good, will he be considered a bust? I concur. You are absolutely right, my apologies.
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Moran.

milkman 02-11-2009 01:52 PM
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Moran.
I concur.

blaise 02-11-2009 02:05 PM
The list doesn't mean much unless you compare it to other schools with players taken in the Top 10. How have Ohio State, OU, Florida, or USC players taken in the top 10 done?

easymobee 02-11-2009 02:08 PM
The point I've been trying to make is that this is just a weak thread. If I open a bust list thread, I expect an Art Schlicter, Ryan Leaf, David Klingler, or Curtis Enis to be waiting there. Not a list containing scattered starters and an occasional Pro Bowler. Just seems to me that someone(s) got carried away with Mike Huff and decided to force everyone else from that school into the bust discussion.

That's a wonderful spin on the "failed project" vs "bust" tag, It reminds me to set my DVR on saturday when NFL network is running their "Top 10 Failed Projects who are absolutely not busts because they are on my favorite team" show.

I know about project picks in the later rounds (Antonio Gates, Eric Crouch, Brad Smith, and others ) But, KC must be the only team taking "projects" in the top 15.
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