I agree with pretty much everything already said here. That mock is awful. IMO Crabtree is very much overrated for obvious(to me) reasons, i.e. not a good route runner, not good in press coverage, not great speed. When all is said and done I would not be surprised to see Maclin and possibly Heyward-Bey have better rookie years and possibly pro careers.

If Sintim is there in the second, I see no way that the Chiefs would go with Matthews of him. Just an awful mock draft.

<center><big><big><big>2009 DRAFT PROJECTION</big></big></big><big><big><big></big></big></big> </center>

Second round
<table style="width: 524px; height: 883px;" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>33</td> <td>Detroit
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>Larry English</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">DE</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Northern Illinois</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>34</td> <td>Kansas City</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Clay Matthews</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LB</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Southern California</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>35
</td> <td>St. Louis </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Darrius Heyward-Bey
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">WR
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Maryland
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>36
</dt> </td> <td> <dt>Cleveland</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Kenny Britt
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">WR
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Rutgers
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>37 </dt> </td> <td> <dt> Seattle</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">William Beatty</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">OT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">UConn
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>38
</td> <td>Cincinnati</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Paul Kruger
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">DE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Utah
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">39</td> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Jacksonville</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Phil Loadholt
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">OT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Oklahoma
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <td> <dt>40 </dt> </td> <td>Oakland</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Sen'Derrick Marks
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">DT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Auburn
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <td>41 </td> <td> Green Bay</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Clint Sintim
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Virginia
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">42
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Buffalo</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Chase Coffman
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">TE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Missouri
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">43</td> <td> San Francisco</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Rashad Johnson</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">FS
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Alabama
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>44</td> <td>Miami (from Washington) </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Sean Smith
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">CB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Utah
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; font-weight: bold;">45
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">New York Giants (from New Orleans)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Ziggy Hood
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">DT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Missouri
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">46 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Houston </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Michael Johnson
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">DE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Georgia Tech
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>47</td> <td>New England (from San Diego)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Darius Butler
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">CB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">UConn
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">48
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Denver </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Terrence Taylor
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">NT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Michigan
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">49</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Chicago </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Robert Ayers
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">DE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Tennessee
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">50</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Tampa Bay </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Tyrone McKenzie
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">South Florida
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">51
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Dallas </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Derrick Williams
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">WR
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Penn State
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="vertical-align: top;">52 </td> <td>New York Jets</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Macho Harris
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">CB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Virginia Tech
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">53 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Philadelphia</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Jared Cook
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">TE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">South Carolina
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">54 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Minnesota</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Jamon Meredith
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">OT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">South Carolina
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">55
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Atanta
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Patrick Chung
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">SS
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Oregon
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">56
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Miami </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Duke Robinson </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">OG
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Oklahoma </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>57</td> <td>Baltimore</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Darry Beckwith
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LSU
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">58
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">New England </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Connor Barwin
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Cincinnati
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">59
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Carolina</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Fili Moala
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">DT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Southern California
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>60</td> <td>New York Giants</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Marcus Freeman
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Ohio State
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">61
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Indianapolis
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Eric Wood
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">C
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Louisville
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>62
</td> <td>Tennessee
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Brian Robiskie
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">WR
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Ohio State
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="vertical-align: top;">63
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"> Arizona </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Bruce Johnson
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">CB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Miami
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">64
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Pittsburgh </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small>Jarron Gilbert</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small>DE</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>San Jose State</small></td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
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The kid might run ,what...a 4.45 at best, does not have the break away speed, nor the separation ability.

Why is he THAT much better than Maclin or Heyward-Bey? His numbers?!?! The kid was thrown to 10 times a game, of course he is going to have the numbers.

The server would crash if we took Crabtree #3

If he doesn't have breakaway speed how is able to do so much damage after the catch? Track speed v. football speed.

If he runs a 4.45 he's a lock for the top 5. People are suggesting that he's not running at the combine because he can't break 4.6.

Separation isn't something dictated by the 40, though. You'd need to see his 10 meter splits and his cone drills to get more of an idea about his acceleration. Strength and technique plays into it, too, beating the bump off the line.

I will burn shit if we take Matthews over anybody, let alone Crabtree at #3. I like the guy, but not any better than a guy like Collie, who has the same speed, same hands, a good ability to separate, but is definitely not a first round option.

Actually, I would like to read Mecca's take on Matthews.

7-28-08
"Personally if they do have the 1st pick it's Crabtree he's got everything you want."


Why did you change your mind?

When I sat down and really watched him outside of a highlight video...

Not only that, but we would be another 2 years behind any rebuild for a championship run...