Well, they're going to deserve quite a few prop things if they're able to sweet-talk Romeo into joining the club. But, I guess if anybody could do it ...

I've never heard of a franchise hiring coaches in this manner ... we want you to work for us, but we don't know what you'll be doing? Wow.

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The reason I think Krummie was kept was to keep a member of the old staff on board to help the new guys know the players. Heck we only had Gunther and Gibbs as the other defensive coaches and they are gone. Its a crappy reason but you see it alot.

By the same braying ass that taught him nothing last year.

Then why wouldn't you keep Gibbs? Hell, his unit at least played reasonably well, they didn't set an all-time record for futility.

I honestly don't think Dorsey could ever be an effective NT (lack of size AND strength) and not likely to be a great 4-3 DT (unless Krumrie/scheme really were THAT bad).. so if that make him a bust because he becomes a great 3-4 De.. I am ok with that... He lacks the typical height but he plays well in space so... hard to say at this point.

Just as long as he isn't a COMPLETE bust like so many of our other DT picks have been of late... I will swallow that we picked him to high for the role he eventual may fill.

And don't mention TRADE value... unless he proves his worth with US, no one is gonna give up value for him regardless.

I think it's a little early to be talking about Dorsey and his greatness or lack thereof. There's a lot of factors involved in the development of an interior defensive lineman, and the quality of play isn't always easy to judge without knowing what everybody in the front 7 is being asked to do, and how well they're all doing it. It's also not often a position where players hit the ground running.

Very fair.. but I was not sold on him as a top pick last year and was not completely suprised he dropped to us.. I was happy that he did since the guys I wanted were gone and he seemed to be the consensus "steal" at the time...

I still hold out hope that it was amixture of coaching/scheme/misc. that made him look so completely lost last year... but all I'm saying is that I just PRAY that he doesn't end up a complete waste ala Ryan Sims

I'm not sure about it, but I may actually buy into the theory that they quietly asked him to add weight last offseason and it cost him the explosiveness he showed in college. I think he may have played at 315 or 320 even though the roster said 297.

He's never been a fireplug, he's got the makings of an undertackle, a disruptive guy. I think having him take up space and occupy blockers last year was a mistake, regardless of his playing weight.

And he's already worth more than Ryan Sims ever was. We'll see what he turns into.

I sincerely hope you are right.I would love to see us play a hybrid 3-4/4-3 defense with a ton of looks... and IF (big if) Tank can be a passable NT at times (doubt he is an ALL GAME NT) and Dorsey can play DT in the 4-3 and DE in the 3-4... we could do alright.

Lots of ifs at this point....

If we go 3-4, Tank's development may be the most important thing for the defense this offseason.

Because even if Dorsey can work successfully like Seymour does, we still (badly) need a Wilfork. And I don't think we can afford to do it early on someone like Raji, not a year after using the 5 on Dorsey and with the best chance we may ever have at drafting a franchise quarterback, assuming we believe there's one and he's there to pick.

I honestly believe Tank could do it in a PART TIME role... I just don't think he has the endurance of the "great" NTs out there... but who the hell knows until he tries it

It would probably help his endurance if the defense could manage to get themselves off the field occasionally.

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I can't wait to see what Haley can do with D-Bowe. I mean, Haley actually made Fitzgerald better. That is some awesome ****ing coaching ability if you can make Larry ****ing Fitzerald better than he was previously.

I think it is amazing that people honestly think that these guys don't know what the situation is. I am sure the parameters have been laid out as to what will decide who does what.

I am not questioning his honesty, because I believe him when he says that things aren't 100% decided. But, they aren't a bunch of guys in a room drawing straws to see who is coordinator.

I also believe Haley when he says he hasn't made up his mind about the defensive scheme. The thing I like about him is he is willing to do what his players do best. That is why he and Gailey will work well together.

He is at least playing coy a little as far as defensive scheme because the only way they go 4-3 this year is if free agency and the draft doesn't go the way they'd like.

Otherwise, they will be a 3-4. It helps too many defensive players already on the roster not to go to it eventually.