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Hog's Gone Fishin 02-24-2009 08:17 AM

It's all moot because Sanchez will be a Lion

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 08:19 AM

I heard on movin the chains...that the lions will take top LT with pick #1 and a QB with #20

SenselessChiefsFan 02-24-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5521869)
Why is it ok to blow a 2nd round pick on a QB but not a 1st round pick? If either one busts you just blew a pick with a team that is in a position that it needs both those picks to pan out.

Well, I didn't say it wasn't okay to blow a first round pick on a QB. I just don't think it is okay to blow a 1st round pick on Sanchez.

Now, to the point.

If you sign a QB at #3, you lose the chance to draft another franchise type player.

Plus, QB's are one of the most hit and miss prospects in the draft. If you draft one at #3, you will pay him about 30 million guaranteed dollars more than if you draft one at the top of round #2.

Stafford is the only QB I see worth the risk at #3, he is the only one with truly superior talent, IMO. I know that you think that Sanchez has superior talent, but Pat White looked better throwing the ball on Sunday.

If I thought Sanchez was an elite prospect, it would be different. I just don't.

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:24 AM

I didn't think Pat White looked better, all of his dropbacks were sloppier than hell and when he was throwing the arm strength throws I thought he looked like a little kid trying to throw a ball that was to big for him...he literally looked like he was trying to throw that shit with every single thing in his body.

And what franchise player are they going to take there? We can't use a hypothetical of one that doesn't exist, and Aaron Curry is not a franchise player either.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-24-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5521884)
I was watching his feet and drop backs everytime....like right away when Pat White did it I was like he looks sloppy...

If you have great feet and mechanics you can have a below average arm and be fine, ask Trent Green about that.

You are full of it right now. Pat White did a phenomenal job with his footwork and mechanics. Even the hosts on the NFL channel said so.

Oh, and I thought we were drafting Sanchez because he has all the physical tools, not because he has a below average arm with great mechanics.

We can get those guys later in the draft.

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 08:26 AM

Pat White already said he would play other positions, because teams are looking at him for the "wildcat". They think Pat is interesting due to his athleticism and that he would blow the wildcat up. Every comment about him being a fulltime QB is he is way too small.

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5521925)
You are full of it right now. Pat White did a phenomenal job with his footwork and mechanics. Even the hosts on the NFL channel said so.

Oh, and I thought we were drafting Sanchez because he has all the physical tools, not because he has a below average arm with great mechanics.

We can get those guys later in the draft.

Great way to spin what I said, where did I say he had a below average arm? He doesn't..

And I'm sorry no one is going to convince me Pat White looked great out there, he's a good athlete everyone knows that already.

He was not dropping back well, he's a midget and he was throwing his outs like a pitcher putting so much of everything he had in his body into them I was cracking up.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-24-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5521924)
I didn't think Pat White looked better, all of his dropbacks were sloppier than hell and when he was throwing the arm strength throws I thought he looked like a little kid trying to throw a ball that was to big for him...he literally looked like he was trying to throw that shit with every single thing in his body.

And what franchise player are they going to take there? We can't use a hypothetical of one that doesn't exist, and Aaron Curry is not a franchise player either.

Okay, I am not going to let this spiral downwards, so I will end with this:

Curry will be a Pro Bowl linebacker. In the 3-4, he will slide inside and he is a bigger, faster, stronger Ray Lewis.

A Pro Bowl, potential HOF linebacker is much more of a franchise player than a bust at QB.

And, since I believe that Sanchez will be a bust at QB, I would rather have Curry.

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 08:30 AM

Pat White does not equal Doug Flutie in terms of full time way too short QB.

I can see Pat White in certain packages being outstanding, but not full time.

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:30 AM

I don't believe Curry is Ray Lewis.....so how about that?

I think he has a better chance of being AJ Hawk than he does Lewis...

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by missinDThomas (Post 5521937)
Pat White does not equal Doug Flutie in terms of full time way too short QB.

I can see Pat White in certain packages being outstanding, but not full time.

He's Seneca Wallace.

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 08:31 AM

Curry / Sanchez...I will tell you who I'd rather have in 4 years

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-24-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by missinDThomas (Post 5521915)
I heard on movin the chains...that the lions will take top LT with pick #1 and a QB with #20


that would be wonderful. I really do want the Dirty!

Mecca 02-24-2009 08:32 AM

I still think you're better off taking LB's in the middle rounds, LBs are the RB's of defense you should be able to cycle guys in there and get production.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-24-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5521931)
Great way to spin what I said, where did I say he had a below average arm? He doesn't..

And I'm sorry no one is going to convince me Pat White looked great out there, he's a good athlete everyone knows that already.

He was not dropping back well, he's a midget and he was throwing his outs like a pitcher putting so much of everything he had in his body into them I was cracking up.

I know that no one is going to convince you that Pat White looked good out there.

The odd thing is that Sanchez had mixed reviews, but everyone agreed that Pat White looked good other than you.

I think you like to act like you know a lot more than you do. You think it gives you some additional credibility. It doesn't.

It makes the less gullible people in here realize you are a fool, and talk out of your a$$.

But, hey, if coming off like you are some expert on a fans message board is what gets you off.... good for you.

It is one thing to have an opinion, it is another to act like an 'expert', when it is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.


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