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MIAdragon 02-25-2009 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 5525574)
wut
:D

MIAdragon 02-25-2009 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5525582)
He's afraid of DTs and DEs too. You forgot DTs and DEs.

Had he not been afraid of them, I'm sure that historically they would have done better.
LMAO

CrazyHorse 02-25-2009 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5525585)
Ok great so he's afraid of the 2 most important positions on the roster...that's how I wanna build my team.

No QB's or DE's.
Have you ever considered, you might be a little nutty on this topic?

Why is this guy afraid of anything? It's an article.

As per one of our previous conversations, I know you feel that Joey Harrington should be on the list of successful QBs. Is he scared of Joey?

Mecca 02-25-2009 10:53 AM
Because it's a stupid article with a stupid premise.

Of course QB's and DE's don't have a nice percentage they are the 2 highest drafted positions by far because they are the most important what a shocking coincidence.

CrazyHorse 02-25-2009 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5525599)
Because it's a stupid article with a stupid premise.

Of course QB's and DE's don't have a nice percentage they are the 2 highest drafted positions by far because they are the most important what a shocking coincidence.
No. WR is also one of the highest.

Carry on.

MIAdragon 02-25-2009 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5525599)
Because it's a stupid article with a stupid premise.

Of course QB's and DE's don't have a nice percentage they are the 2 highest drafted positions by far because they are the most important what a shocking coincidence.
numbers suck when they dont show what YOU want them to huh?

Mecca 02-25-2009 10:57 AM
You know there are articles written that say WR carries the highest bust rate of any position?

Mecca 02-25-2009 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5525617)
numbers suck when they dont show what YOU want them to huh?
Oh jesus just nevermind.

You can flip numbers to mean anything you want them to, football is not baseball.

Deberg_1990 02-25-2009 11:00 AM
I wonder if NFL execs use numbers like this to help them draft?


OOops, i guess not, because then guys like Sanchez and Stafford would be available in the 3rd round.

|Zach| 02-25-2009 11:04 AM
I am shocked missinDT hasn't come by to fluff Mecca.

DaKCMan AP 02-25-2009 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5525512)
I dont disagree but the numbers dont lie. There will always be exceptions’ I just hope we make the correct call no matter what it is.
This is just a snapshot and isn't enough info to make any claims. You're looking at success rate without looking at value. OG had the highest success rate - but you can get an OG later in the draft and still have a pretty good success rate. However, when you look at other positions like QB, DT, etc. the success rate drops off much more. Therefore, while an OG might be the 'safer' pick it is not a good value pick because you can get one later. Whereas a QB might have a lower top-5 success rate - the rate in lower rounds gets lower and lower and lower.

MIAdragon 02-25-2009 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5525620)
Oh jesus just nevermind.

You can flip numbers to mean anything you want them to, football is not baseball.
Maybe I’m a little more open minded, it seems many, (in an attempt to fall as far away from Carl) are as close minded as he was, just not "scared" like he but somewhat reckless. If the best player for this team @ #3 is a QB then great!!

MIAdragon 02-25-2009 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5525649)
This is just a snapshot and isn't enough info to make any claims. You're looking at success rate without looking at value. OG had the highest success rate - but you can get an OG later in the draft and still have a pretty good success rate. However, when you look at other positions like QB, DT, etc. the success rate drops off much more. Therefore, while an OG might be the 'safer' pick it is not a good value pick because you can get one later. Whereas a QB might have a lower top-5 success rate - the rate in lower rounds gets lower and lower and lower.
Very true, it is just a snapshot and I doubt the author intended it to be used as a guide for teams on how and when to draft.

kcbubb 02-25-2009 11:24 AM
interesting stats. much better than 57% of 1st round QB wins the superbowl stats. it's obviously not something you would abide by but take into consideration. each player needs to be evaluated with how he will fit with the Chiefs and how good that player is independent from historical drafts.

The Buddha 02-25-2009 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by arc (Post 5525539)
To be intellectually honest, he should have broken the percentages down in all areas of the draft, too. Who's to say that the top 5 isn't the safest spot to get a QB, percentage-wise, than anywhere else in the draft, despite the low number?
The best rate is at the 199th pick... count it.


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