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unothadeal 03-01-2009 03:47 PM

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Bills interested in Chiefs guard

Brian Waters (Getty Images)
By Pat Moran
Scout.com writer
Posted Mar 1, 2009


BFR's Pat Moran has the lowdown on a possible trade looming. The Bills might not be finished upgrading their offensive line. Disgruntled guard Brian Waters could be Buffalo-bound. Read this Buffalo Football Report exclusive inside...

The Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for disgruntled Kansas City Chiefs guard Brian Waters, according to a trusted source.

The Bills, in the market for a new left guard after releasing Derrick Dockery on Thursday, could be looking to land the four-time Pro Bowler for a deal similar to the Marcus Stroud trade last year, when they gave up third and fifth round draft picks.

Waters has become disenchanted with the additions to the Chiefs organization. According to Kansas City Star writer Jason Whitlock, Waters asked for his release after new general manager Scott Pioli said he had no interest in meeting him. Whitlock said that Waters was “offended and shocked.”

Also according to the report, several Arizona Cardinals, including Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald, gave new head coach Todd Haley less than glowing reviews. Haley was called “condescending and ignored by veterans.”

While Waters is 32 years of age and the Chiefs offensive line struggled mightily, there is little doubt about his ability to perform. He would be an instant upgrade over Dockery and could give Buffalo one of the finer left sides of the offensive line in the NFL alongside Jason Peters.

The Bills would likely have to give Waters a new deal. He’s in the fourth year of a six year, $26.5 million deal and has made no bones about declaring himself underpaid.

While an interest in a Waters trade hasn’t been made public, a source inside the organization tells me the Bills are “very much interested in him.”

Pioli refused to honor his request to be released and weren’t open to trading him. But that could change after the Chiefs lost a second-round pick in acquiring Matt Cassel from the New England Patriots. By trading the displeased Waters, the club could recoup draft picks as well as not have their new franchise quarterback hampered with an offensive line that includes an exceedingly unhappy left guard.

Stay tuned right here for more details as they come available.

bdeg 03-01-2009 03:47 PM

Because they're too old to help us when we will be good, whereas a draft pick will not.

Make sense?

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5543967)
It'd have to be a #2 for me to even entertain the discussion.

Not me.

I'd take a 4th or even a 5th.

This draft is so deep with offensive lineman, plus, Herb Taylor's just waiting to be the starting left guard.

RedThat 03-01-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 5543991)
We have a decent QB coming in now, so why not send our best reciever and our best O linemen to another team? Yeah, that makes sense.

I can see what you're trying to say here, however, if he's not a happycamper and doesn't want to be here as some reports indicate, what else can you really do?

Fritz88 03-01-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5543948)
I'd say a 2nd sounds reasonable.

I'd say that is a little too much for Waters.

Maybe a 3rd.

seaofred 03-01-2009 03:50 PM

Tony G. and Waters for their 2nd and 3rd would be great. Then if we can find a way to get rid of LJ, we wouldn't have anymore of the spoiled babies on our team. We then could build a team.... Not just have some Pro Bowlers.

shammus 03-01-2009 03:53 PM

A couple things I don't like about this -

1. It further depletes an already struggling line. If I remember correctly, this is Herb Taylor's natural position so he could step in, but Waters is a probowler so this would be a downgrade. We already need a new C, RG and RT.

2. Most of the quality Olinemen available in free agency are now off the market. There's still Khalif Barnes if we need a RT but very few others. That means, we'd be heading into the draft with four holes on our offensive line.

3. Waters is a leader on that line (not to mention the entire team) and certainly not doing Brandon Alberts any harm as a mentor.

Hopefully his comments were made when he was still upset over what happened. So perhaps this all blows over when he calms down. I know Haley/Pioli were planning on "reaching out" to Larry Johnson. I can't imagine they'd be so quick to part with Waters.

Micjones 03-01-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5544001)
Not me.

I'd take a 4th or even a 5th.

This draft is so deep with offensive lineman, plus, Herb Taylor's just waiting to be the starting left guard.

Seriously? You'd take a 5th Round draft pick for your best offensive lineman who just went to a Pro Bowl and probably has at least 3 more years of productive football left in him?

munkey 03-01-2009 03:58 PM

Buh-bye Waters....Nice knowing ya.

He just wants more money and does not want to start over/rebuild/compete for his job.

AND YES...he SHOULD be competing for his job after this little tampontrum.

FAX 03-01-2009 04:00 PM

After just watching Pioli trade our 2nd for both Cassel and Vrabel, some peeps think it's possible that we'll trade Waters for a 5?

Now I know why the Israelites built that golden calf thing while Moses' back was turned.

FAX

Micjones 03-01-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 5544010)
Tony G. and Waters for their 2nd and 3rd would be great. Then if we can find a way to get rid of LJ, we wouldn't have anymore of the spoiled babies on our team. We then could build a team.... Not just have some Pro Bowlers.

#2 (acquired in trade) Darrius Heyward-Bey
#3 (Chiefs pick) Eric Wood
#3 (acquired in trade) Lawrence Sidbury or Chase Coffman or Jonathan Luigs

Where do I sign?

el borracho 03-01-2009 04:03 PM

Well, that would allow us to slide Albert to LG and draft one of the top LTs in this draft.

soundmind 03-01-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5544003)
I can see what you're trying to say here, however, if he's not a happycamper and doesn't want to be here as some reports indicate, what else can you really do?

Package him with LJ somewhere so they actually have some kind of value combined...

All our vets are whiny, coddled players. We have Carl, Herm and Vermeil to thank for that, our players have been conditioned to think that the organization is concerned about their feelings, and that they have a say in how football operations will evolve....such is simply not the case anymore.

Enjoy your new homes gentleman, this team is busy building a winner and doesn't have time for your self-pity.

Micjones 03-01-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5544071)
Well, that would allow us to slide Albert to LG and draft one of the top LTs in this draft.

That'd make for one hell of a left side of the Offensive Line.
Not sure I'd do that, but talk about "protection".

Micjones 03-01-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5544076)
Package him with LJ somewhere so they actually have some kind of value combined...

All our vets are whiny, coddled players. We have Carl, Herm and Vermeil to thank for that, our players have been conditioned to think that the organization is concerned about their feelings, and that they have a say in how football operations will evolve....such is simply not the case anymore.

Enjoy your new homes gentleman, this team is busy building a winner and doesn't have time for your self-pity.

A part of me thinks LJ is the least expendable of the three in the minds of Chiefs brass. Not sure why I feel that way... I just think he's gonna be here when the season opens.


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