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wild1 03-08-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 5565789)
Move forward 20 years. A new GM is in place. Kicked the old guy out...brought rings on his fingers and a new coach. Are you too blind to see it is the same old song. What is the quote about those who don't pay attention to history are doomed to repeat it?

I'm sorry, I can't hear you equating Pioli's credibility to Carl's, those super bowl rings are distracting me.

Messier 03-08-2009 09:35 AM

While I don't mind any opportunity to slam Kevin Kietzman and Jack Harry, Whitlock ironically comes off as the whiniest of all. What is this, the third article complaining about not being given any info from the Chiefs?

There is nothing more boring and annoying than articles proclaiming ones own importance.

Deberg_1990 03-08-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wild1 (Post 5565810)
I'm sorry, I can't hear you equating Pioli's credibility to Carl's, those super bowl rings are distracting me.

Carl had a couple championships when he came to KC.


USFL titles. ROFL

Messier 03-08-2009 09:39 AM

It's like Whitlock thinks he's doling out some sort of "punishment" by saying, until you talk to me I'm going to question all of your moves. Somehow I don't think Pioli cares.

the Talking Can 03-08-2009 09:48 AM

wait, is fatlock claiming to be a journalist now?

you know, someone who actually works to uncover and report on a story?

yes, we need those...we always need those

we don't need columnists...they do nothing but offer up generally childish and dumb opinions....i hope to god Pioli ignores them...that was Carl's problem, he couldn't ignore them...

if Pioli never read a word written by a columnist in Kansas City it would be a major step towards success for this franchise...

Mojo Jojo 03-08-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5565816)
Carl had a couple championships when he came to KC.


USFL titles. ROFL

Still two more pro titles than you will ever win.

Adept Havelock 03-08-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 5565821)
It's like Whitlock thinks he's doling out some sort of "punishment" by saying, until you talk to me I'm going to question all of your moves. Somehow I don't think Pioli cares.

Yep. Another Half-Whit whine fest. :rolleyes:

morphius 03-08-2009 10:05 AM

Well, when you can't get any information I guess you have to write crap like this. Sure it is okay to question what Pioli does, but right now not a lot has happened to make any real complaints.

Jack 03-08-2009 10:10 AM

Truth and accurate news reporting are strange bedfellows and the main reason I haven't subscribed to any news papers in the last decade. They are entertainers and nothing more. Whitlock defining his role as watchdog is quite a reach. His fumbling, rambling narrative leaves so much to be desired.

I could care less if they consider Pioli aloof and arrogant. Bottom line is I want to see the team win. Here is arrogance:

"He’s brainwashed his players into believing the media are evil, incompetent and stirrers of chaos. Obviously, we are not perfect. A collection of human beings cannot be flawless. There are instances when individual moments of incompetence make the media appear wicked or solely interested in controversy."

Coogs 03-08-2009 10:13 AM

I will have to agree with Whitlock on this one. 610 AND 810 are both damn near unbearable to listen to anymore.

DaFace 03-08-2009 10:18 AM

This is just stupid. Comparing Pioli to Bush? Come on now. One is the head of a governmental entity (the U.S. government). We all have no choice but to pay taxes to that entity, so we have a right to question the moves they make. And while there is no set rule saying so, if 90 percent of the people feel one way about an issue, that individual has an obligation to try and make sure that strong majority wins out.

The other is the head of a privately-owned business. No one is forced to give them a dime. It doesn't matter whether the media questions them or not, they are going to act in the best interest of the team (and moreso of the business). Every person in Kansas City could feel one way about what the Chiefs should do, and they don't have to do a damn thing. It's not even in the same ball park.

Whitlock's just pissed that he doesn't have anything fun to write about anymore, so he gripes about not having anything to write about (but pins it on Pioli).

Chiefaholic 03-08-2009 10:19 AM

Comparing Pioli to Carl is rediculous. The two are night and day different in almost every aspect of the game.

1. Carl = 20 years....Advanced to AFC Championship once
Pioli = 6 years.....3 Superbowl Rings

2. Carl = Releys on free agency to patch holes for mediocracy
Pioli = Builds through draft and fills roster with second teir FA's

3. Carl = Strokes ego by telling media when he takes a piss
Pioli = Keeps internal decisions quiet until the "DEAL IS DONE"

4. Carl = SUCKS at drafting starter caliber players
Pioli = Proven record of drafting quality players in later rounds

5. Carl = Hated by other franchises, agents, players, and fans
Pioli = Respected by everybody that matters (**** the media)

6. Carl = Boo'ed by the fans in HIS stadium
Pioli = Fans cheered as he hoisted the Lombardi Trophy

7. Carl = Spends the offseason on vacation and making speeches to the media to stroke his ego

Pioli = Spends the offseason hiring the best staff possible, studying game tape, looking for AFFORDABLE FA's that allow us to build a TEAM, and preparing for the draft in detail.



I could go on for hours....

kc-nd 03-08-2009 10:38 AM

Jason,

Use your brain. Report on what is happening.

You don't need to talk to someone - or have someone say something - in order to be a better journalist.

If you have to have someone explain everything to you, how are you ever going to learn to think?

HC_Chief 03-08-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5565833)
wait, is fatlock claiming to be a journalist now?

you know, someone who actually works to uncover and report on a story?

yes, we need those...we always need those

we don't need columnists...they do nothing but offer up generally childish and dumb opinions....i hope to god Pioli ignores them...that was Carl's problem, he couldn't ignore them...

if Pioli never read a word written by a columnist in Kansas City it would be a major step towards success for this franchise...

Superlative.

Just Passin' By 03-08-2009 10:53 AM

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But overall, we attempt to be a watchdog of those with power. When we fail to play that role, generally speaking, terrible things happen. The Iraq War is a worst-case scenario. We trusted our president implicitly, led the cheers when we declared war on Iraq and declined to demand answers to difficult questions. Hundreds of billions of dollars later, and with our economy in collapse, we now blame poor, minority homeowners for the fall of our society.
It's blatant lies like these that have contributed so greatly to the downfall of the mainstream media. To make matters worse, he's putting such blatant political lies in a sports column. When people ask me my opinion as to why I think print media is in its death throes, I point to crap like this.


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