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1ChiefsDan 03-09-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5567844)
How'd Bodden do, guys?

LMAO
Don't know Ocho Cinco.

DaneMcCloud 03-09-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5567863)
Could it be Pioli is waiting for the second round of FA in a few months? I think more quality per dollar will be available when good teams dump overstock players with some talent.

With changes in the salary cap, teams just aren't "dumping" players in June like they did a decade ago. Nearly every team has either re-signed or cut players for salary cap reasons.

The only guys that could possibly upgrade the Chiefs roster will be cut in August.

The Chiefs aren't doing the old "plug and play". They're trying to actually build a roster.

OnTheWarpath15 03-09-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5567937)
With changes in the salary cap, teams just aren't "dumping" players in June like they did a decade ago. Nearly every team has either re-signed or cut players for salary cap reasons.

The only guys that could possibly upgrade the Chiefs roster will be cut in August.

The Chiefs aren't doing the old "plug and play". They're trying to actually build a roster.

What makes you say that, Dane?

Other than Cassel, they haven't signed one player that will still be around when this team is competing for a championship in 3-4 years.

I'm curious as to how they are going to spend enough to reach the salary floor at this point. They are still WAY underneath it.

Micjones 03-09-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5567980)
What makes you say that, Dane?

Other than Cassel, they haven't signed one player that will still be around when this team is competing for a championship in 3-4 years.

I'm curious as to how they are going to spend enough to reach the salary floor at this point. They are still WAY underneath it.

Signing 3-4 of these guys should take care of that.
It'd also help shore up this roster.

Titty Meat 03-09-2009 12:15 PM

What's up with people on this board and there love of Medicore players? Bernard Pollard, Turk Mcbride, Mike Cox. Mike Cox sucks everyon just thinks he's good cause he played better then the FB the season before cause that guy was a tight end playing fullback.

ChiefRon 03-09-2009 12:15 PM

I don't think we've even seen the "beginning" of FA moves for us.

Pioli & Clark have both alluded to being more active in FA, so I'm thinking maybe we just haven't quite started yet, I guess because of the "big-money" deals so far.

Here's the latest take from nfl.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true


Kansas City Chiefs
The combination of a new GM and head coach usually spells lots of action in free agency, especially when the team has as much salary cap space as the Chiefs have in 2009. Scott Pioli knows his team has many needs, but he also is a master of waiting until the first wave of signings is over and prices settle down. No one will have a better feel for the hundreds of free agents still on the market.

As we all know, Pioli gave up the 34th overall pick in the draft to acquire Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. He still has picks number three and 67 to parlay into more picks if he needs to. The Chiefs are starting to bring in free agents such as Bobby Engram, Keith Davis, Travis Daniels and Clark Haggans for visits. Those players fit the mold under which Pioli operated in New England. He's looking for bargains, and he is sure to find a few to bolster his roster depth and special teams.

I could see him being very active in the bottom-feeding business even after the draft. Also look for more trades with the Patriots and Dolphins.

DaneMcCloud 03-09-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5567980)
What makes you say that, Dane?

Other than Cassel, they haven't signed one player that will still be around when this team is competing for a championship in 3-4 years.

I'm curious as to how they are going to spend enough to reach the salary floor at this point. They are still WAY underneath it.

I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

DaneMcCloud 03-09-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 5567997)
What's up with people on this board and there love of Medicore players? Bernard Pollard, Turk Mcbride, Mike Cox. Mike Cox sucks everyon just thinks he's good cause he played better then the FB the season before cause that guy was a tight end playing fullback.

Um, why do you think that Mike Cox "sucks"?

Are you completely delusional or do you just appear that way on the internets?

Titty Meat 03-09-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5567999)
I don't think we've even seen the "beginning" of FA moves for us.

Pioli & Clark have both alluded to being more active in FA, so I'm thinking maybe we just haven't quite started yet, I guess because of the "big-money" deals so far.

Here's the latest take from nfl.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true


Kansas City Chiefs
The combination of a new GM and head coach usually spells lots of action in free agency, especially when the team has as much salary cap space as the Chiefs have in 2009. Scott Pioli knows his team has many needs, but he also is a master of waiting until the first wave of signings is over and prices settle down. No one will have a better feel for the hundreds of free agents still on the market.

As we all know, Pioli gave up the 34th overall pick in the draft to acquire Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. He still has picks number three and 67 to parlay into more picks if he needs to. The Chiefs are starting to bring in free agents such as Bobby Engram, Keith Davis, Travis Daniels and Clark Haggans for visits. Those players fit the mold under which Pioli operated in New England. He's looking for bargains, and he is sure to find a few to bolster his roster depth and special teams.

I could see him being very active in the bottom-feeding business even after the draft. Also look for more trades with the Patriots and Dolphins.


I agree they'll sign more free agents after the draft when they have a better idea of what the roster will look like.

Micjones 03-09-2009 12:22 PM

There are players available now who can help this team.

bdeg 03-09-2009 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5568010)
I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

If that was their only reason, they should sign him to a front-loaded LTC. We could give him 10mil signing bonus paid out this year, 15 this year and then 5 for the next 3. 4 years 40 mil, plus we can meet the floor this year and have extra room the next few.

You could even make the salary 15-15-5-5-5-5 so it's a 6 year 60 mil deal. I bet we'll have cap space next season too.

Titty Meat 03-09-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5568014)
Um, why do you think that Mike Cox "sucks"?

Are you completely delusional or do you just appear that way on the internets?

I have a different opinon on something I must be delusional. I'm not the one who talks about Mike Cox like he's T-Rich. Mike Cox was such a great part of the run game last year that they switched the offense in the middle of the season. Mike Cox was basically only good at catching the ball out of the backfield he wasn't that great of a blocker like a T-rich or Laurenzo Neal. I'd sign Heath Evans he's much better then Mike Cox why? Because he can do it all thats the Patriots way.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-09-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5568010)
I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

"Show...Me...The CONTRACT"!!! :D

OnTheWarpath15 03-09-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5568010)
I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

No, and that's my point.

It could be argued that all they've done thus far is sign scrubs. I'm not sure I'd consider that "building a roster."

OnTheWarpath15 03-09-2009 12:31 PM

And regarding Cassel, if he's not signed to a long-term deal by April 24th, drafting a QB at #3 is still an option.

I wouldn't be shocked if they went that route, knowing that they own Cassel's rights for 2 years.

Cassel helps them compete until the new guy is ready. And if for some reason Cassel turns into Tom Brady v.2, then you have some trade bait.


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