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BigRedChief 03-11-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5572556)
I would saywith the production that he has put out so far, who gives a ****

yeah, why would a fan care as long as he keeps producing. I think this is as good a start that any player has had.

Albert Pujols's Statistics Over His First Six Seasons

2001 Season: .329 BA, 194 Hits, 47 Doubles, 37 HR, 130 RBI, 112 Runs (NL Rookie of the Year)
2002 season: .314 BA, 185 Hits, 40 Doubles, 34 HR, 127 RBI, 130 Runs (2nd in MVP Voting)
2003 Season: .359 BA, 212 Hits, 40 Doubles, 43 HR, 124 RBI, 137 Runs (2nd in MVP Voting)
2004 Season: .331 BA, 196 Hits, 51 Doubles, 46 HR, 123 RBI, 133 Runs (3rd in MVP Voting)
2005 Season: .330 BA, 195 Hits, 38 Doubles, 41 HR, 117 RBI, 129 Runs (NL Most Valuable Player)
2006 Season: .331 BA, 177 Hits, 33 Doubles, 49 HR, 137 RBI, 119 Runs (2nd in MVP Voting)
Needless to say, those are some pretty impressive statistics. But just how good are they? Compared with the first first six seasons of every other player in history, where does the man who is nicknamed Phat Albert stand? Well, here is a statistical comparison of Albert Pujols against three players who are generally considered to have had the best 'first six' seasons in baseball.
The Statistical Comparison
Albert Pujols (2001-2006): .331 BA, 193 Hits, 42 Doubles, 42 HR, 126 RBI, 127 Runs

Don Mattingly (1984-1989): .327 BA, 203 Hits, 43 Doubles, 27 HR, 114 RBI, 102 Runs
Ted Williams: (1939-1947*): .353 BA, 184 Hits, 39 Doubles, 33 HR, 125 RBI, 133 Runs
Joe DiMaggio: (1936-1941): .347 BA, 194 Hits, 36 Doubles, 33 HR, 136 RBI, 122 Runs
All great statistics from great players. But who is the best. Well, to use a simple anayltical technique, one could assign four points to the player who scored the best in a category, three points for second place, two for third and one for fourth. Then, add up each total, and the player with the most points is tops.
Here is how the players compare: Albert Pujols (17), Don Mattingly (13), Williams (16), DiMaggio (17).
Under this analysis, Pujols is tied with DiMaggio for best initial six seasons in history. This is just a rough thumbnail sketch, of course, but when a player compares favorably with DiMaggio and Williams, that sure says a lot.

phisherman 03-11-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5572526)
No but I don't for a second believe that he was 22 or 23 or whatever when he came up...

for once i agree with mecca here...

i watched him play as a "freshman" in high school at Fort Osage and he didn't look that much different from what he looks like now. a healthy five o' clock shadow on a "14-15" year old seemed a bit out of the ordinary.

L.A. Chieffan 03-11-2009 08:54 AM

doyers resigned manny...Wo0T!

smittysbar 03-11-2009 08:56 AM

People just say stupid shit like that to try and discredit what he has done, which is not possible.

BigRedChief 03-11-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 5572624)
for once i agree with mecca here...

i watched him play as a "freshman" in high school at Fort Osage and he didn't look that much different from what he looks like now. a healthy five o' clock shadow on a "14-15" year old seemed a bit out of the ordinary.

uhhh have you looked at the players at a 14-15 year old baseball game? Some have full beards.

Phobia 03-11-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 5572545)
You're welcome to that opinion, I guess. But as a fellow journalist, I'd put Posnanski up there with anyone. This guy is respected by all his fellow pros - and held up as an example to young writers.

His voice, his pacing, his versatility - all are excellent. And it's not as easy as you think to write uplifting features without forcing it (something Posnanski is able to do).

Bad news is the easiest news to tell...

I'm a journalist hobbyist and I agree, Posnanski tells stories like few are able. He's spectacular.

Phobia 03-11-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 5572624)
for once i agree with mecca here...

i watched him play as a "freshman" in high school at Fort Osage and he didn't look that much different from what he looks like now. a healthy five o' clock shadow on a "14-15" year old seemed a bit out of the ordinary.

I had that. Plus, I'm no Cardinals fan.

StcChief 03-11-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5572526)
No but I don't for a second believe that he was 22 or 23 or whatever when he came up...

I don't care if he's 25-28. The numbers speak for themselves.

Ted Williams, Stan The Man, DiMaggio numbers.

maybe it's the married,God fearing, clean living....

BigChiefFan 03-11-2009 10:26 AM

Great player, but who gives a shit, he's a RedBird. Go ROYALS!

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-11-2009 10:29 AM

My college roommate played high school ball against him. He tried to spike him to break up a double play, but Pujols just verticalled right over him. Said he was a manchild then...didn't look 18, but that didn't mean anything.

Thig Lyfe 03-11-2009 10:47 AM

Traitor! Everybody knows David DeJesus is the best player in baseball.

CoMoChief 03-11-2009 10:52 AM

He's like 35+ has to be.

I remember watching him play against my best friend's older brother in Legion ball, my friend played on Fike, Pujols played for Hi-Boy out of Independence. I was like 14 at the time.

Pujols was so much bigger and looked way older than anyone else out on the field. Like a man playing against a bunch of children. Still to this day he hit the furthest HR I had ever seen......this was with a metal bat, but damn did that thing sail, had to have been over 500ft. Not even kidding.

BigChiefFan 03-11-2009 10:55 AM

This just in...Alex Gordon to have MVP Season and a breakout year. Pujols runner-up.;)

phisherman 03-11-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5572785)
uhhh have you looked at the players at a 14-15 year old baseball game? Some have full beards.

i don't care either way. i'm just saying that he looked significantly older than any other players out on the field.

Jewish Rabbi 03-11-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5572978)
This just in...Alex Gordon to have MVP Season and a breakout year. Pujols runner-up.;)

So which one is getting traded?


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