If KU gets a 2 seed in the KC pod, I can't imagine the amount of cocksucking your AD had to do in order to make it happen.

There are always tons of upsets in post season tournaments. Look it up. So, this tournament's result will mean Baylor will get in the tournament? ****ing BAYLOR! Big deal! If MU wins, they were in already. Who ****ing cares? I'm pretty sure the usual suspects from the Big XII will be in the dance.

I'm they do take these final games into account. But I think it's strange that this year there have been so many upsets in these conference tourneys, that teams probably aren't going to drop as far as they should. Normally you have upsets, but so many top 1/2 seeds aren't making it, you either have to leave things the way they are or jump one of these 3 or 4 seeded teams to the top, and that's not gonna happen.

This is a good point.

I'm still of the mindset that MU has a great shot at KC with a win today, but not having to go through OU and KU matters.

It will still be a great accomplishment for Mizzou, don't get me wrong, but the road hasn't been as difficult as it could have been.

I can't imagine how KU would get a 2 seed.

Yeah, but this year has been pretty extreme. How many top seeds aren't winning their tourney in these BCS conferences? Almost all of them. And right now Michigan State is going to lose, UNC's in a struggle, LSU's already lost today. It's been a bloodbath. Both KU and OU didn't even come close, when's the last time that happened? Same thing happened in the Pac-10. Even in the smaller conferences, Creighton got slaughtered, Butler lost, Davidson lost, BYU lost. In the Atlantic 10, Temple and Duquesne are playing for the title tonight and neither of them were even in the picture.

And down goes North Carolina. That leaves Louisville as the only presumed #1 seed who's still alive in their tourney.

This is how I see it...

Teams guaranteed AT LEAST a #1 or #2 seed

Pitt
UCONN
UNC
Louisville
Memphis
Duke
Michigan State


Oklahoma is boarder line. Yes, I know you Duke haters. Duke's gonna get it. Alot of big wins and a #2 RPI.

So that leaves the last #2 seed to KU, Wake Forest, OU, Washington, Villanova. I suppose it's POSSIBLE, but I doubt it. Wake, OU, KU, Washington, Villanova already lost pretty early in their conference tourneys..

If the Beakers get a 2 seed the fix is in....KU & MU both will end up with 3 seeds.

Thats because you're a K-State fan

Michigan State is going to lose too.

If Mizzou wins today, they deserve a 2 seed, IMO.

only a homer would think KU deserves a 2 seed after the Big 12 tourney loss.

My thoughts - feel free to chime in with yours.

1 seeds: UNC, UConn, Pitt, Louisville (if they win tonight)
2 seeds: Memphis, Duke, Mich State, OU/KU (winner will get 2 seed and KC pod)
3 seeds: OU/KU, Nova, Wake, Mizzou (if we win tonight)

Wake, Wash, Nova, and UCLA lost, so they'll end up with 3/4/5 seeds.

I think Syracuse could steal Villanova's 3 seed with a win tonight.

Don't think Purdue or Illinois move up into 3 seed territory even if they win Big 10 tourney.

Let me even rephrase that, Louisville is the only 1 seed to even make it to the FINAL of their tourney. That is probably unheard of. And the #2 and 3 lines aren't much better.