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Alphaman 04-05-2009 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HerculesRockefell (Post 5641322)
Detroit offered at least the 1st overall for Cutler, Denver turned them down.

Denver sent no scouts to USC's Pro Day.

If McDaniels loved Sanchez as much as everyone says he does, he takes the trade that puts him in the best position to draft the guy and the size of the contract be damend.

Add in that Denver also turned down deals that would have netted higher 1sts (Washington and the Jets), I just don't see the trade up happening.

While the Jets and Washington may have offered a higher #1, were they willing to include a 3rd this year AND a 1st next year. Likely not, thus the Broncos took the best overall value on the table.

Chiefnj2 04-05-2009 07:05 AM

Pioli and Haley aren't going to start a QB controversy with their first pick of the draft.

milkman 04-05-2009 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5641385)
When I say that exact same thing people immediately start lecturing me about how "spending a lot this year will hurt us in the long run" BS. It pisses me off. Damn flip floppers.

I'm going to take a wild guess here that when you say that you are discussing drafting a LT #3 overall.

You aren't talking about spending "a lot this year".
You are talking about investing long term contracts into two positions on the O-Line with Albert and #3 overall.

Big difference, and I'm betting you actually knew this.

milkman 04-05-2009 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5641780)
Pioli and Haley aren't going to start a QB controversy with their first pick of the draft.

As much as I hate it, I agree.

philfree 04-05-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5641803)
I'm going to take a wild guess here that when you say that you are discussing drafting a LT #3 overall.

You aren't talking about spending "a lot this year".
You are talking about investing long term contracts into two positions on the O-Line with Albert and #3 overall.

Big difference, and I'm betting you actually knew this.

I don't know if this matters much or not. All they have to do is work out a contract for a player that's front loaded and long term friendly. To get a better grip on this though one would need to look at the numbers of top 5 rookie contracts to see how they're written. I guessing that the rookie contracts this year will be all about signing bonus and guaranteed money so it may be front loaded. That said I still wouldn't draft an OT with the 3rd pick this year.

PhilFree:arrow:

HerculesRockefell 04-05-2009 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphaman (Post 5641778)
While the Jets and Washington may have offered a higher #1, were they willing to include a 3rd this year AND a 1st next year. Likely not, thus the Broncos took the best overall value on the table.

Washington had 2 1sts on the table.

It was also well known that Denver wanted 2 1sts+ for Cutler, if those 3 teams were still calling up to the end to try to acquire Cutler, I'd bet that the Jets and Bucs also were willing to put 2 1sts on the table too.

This wasn't an Internet trade where fans massively overvalue their draft picks or think they can lowball a team because someone has to be traded. Denver told everyone what they wanted, and mulitple teams were willing to meet that price.

Mile High Mania 04-05-2009 09:29 AM

I think there will be interest in the #3 pick, but it depends on which team is hungry enough to give up what it would take and pay the big contract. Feel free to scratch Denver from that list.

Cap-wise, they wouldn't be able to make it happen based on what I've read. Plus, I think X and McD would wind up missing if they traded Cutler for picks, then packaged them to move up like that.

htismaqe 04-06-2009 08:54 AM

Washington also reportedly had Jason Campbell on the table and Denver didn't want him.

DaKCMan AP 04-06-2009 09:39 AM

Options #1 and #4 are the only two that net us equal or greater value. We lose some on option #2, but not much. The other two we get taken behind the woodshed.

Chiefnj2 04-06-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5644250)
Options #1 and #4 are the only two that net us equal or greater value. We lose some on option #2, but not much. The other two we get taken behind the woodshed.

Forget the chart for a moment. Which option do you prefer?

KC stays at #3 and picks Curry or Monroe, or

KC does the trade with Philly and picks up your choice of of players at 21 and 28. Perhaps a definite blue chip starter like Mack and someone else.

DaKCMan AP 04-06-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5644300)
Forget the chart for a moment. Which option do you prefer?

KC stays at #3 and picks Curry or Monroe, or

KC does the trade with Philly and picks up your choice of of players at 21 and 28. Perhaps a definite blue chip starter like Mack and someone else.

Of those listed, I only like options 1, 2 or 4.

The Franchise 04-06-2009 10:15 AM

Offer #2.

The Browns aren't going to trade up if they know that we're not going to take Curry. And if they're going to try and trade up to get Curry....it's going to be with the Rams.

htismaqe 04-06-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5644300)
Forget the chart for a moment. Which option do you prefer?

KC stays at #3 and picks Curry or Monroe, or

KC does the trade with Philly and picks up your choice of of players at 21 and 28. Perhaps a definite blue chip starter like Mack and someone else.

I'd rather have the latter, but that's just me.

If you had said just Curry in your 1st scenario, I might have thought about it harder. But I don't want Monroe for any reason.

BigCatDaddy 04-06-2009 11:02 AM

I think some form of #3 is the most likely. Maybe throw in another pick next year of something to even it up a bit.

kcbubb 04-07-2009 11:44 AM

I think trade #2 is the most likely to happen. It is still not likely but I would guess that it is the most likely. Those other trades are real long shots.


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