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StcChief

04-12-2009 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 5662014)

Tony G = HOF
History of 2nd rd Chiefs picks = can create a new town called Bustville.

this. A 2nd round pick #55 in ATL. I wouldn't be surprised if Gonzo says no thanks I quit

Rain Man

04-12-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5662020)

How many of those 2nd round picks were Pioli's?

He drafted Blackledge. Admittedly, he was smarter than Peterson since he only used a second-rounder, but still....

OnTheWarpath15

04-12-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadianChief (Post 5662022)

I thought Gonzo wanted a ring? He ain't gonna get it going to Atl so he might as well stay put.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gwgp4j.jpg

TG would have an overwhelmingly better chance at winning a SB in ATL in the next 2 years over staying in KC.

To argue otherwise is flat-out ridiculous.

Red Dawg

04-12-2009 10:48 AM

I would do it for their second only if Tony wants it this way. Out of the division and conference as well. Nothing less than a second.

OnTheWarpath15

04-12-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5662025)

If Pioli is signing guys like Zach Thomas and trading for guys like Mike Vrabel, what makes you think he's interested in trading Tony Gonzalez?

It's going to have to be a WOW offer for them to trade Tony Gonzalez...

#55 overall isn't a WOW offer. Sorry drafturbators, it's clear Pioli is trying to build a contender with veteran presence...the Herm Edwards 25 and under only approach isn't the Pioli way. Gonzalez has a reasonable contract and is showing no signs of slowing down...he's not going to be traded IMO.

A contender?

Are you kidding?

Do you actually think that guys like Vrabel, Thomas and yes, Gonzalez are going to be around when this team is truly competitive?

Vrabel and Thomas might have this year left, and Gonzo has said he might play this year and next.

CanadianChief

04-12-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5662037)

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gwgp4j.jpg

TG would have an overwhelmingly better chance at winning a SB in ATL in the next 2 years over staying in KC.

To argue otherwise is flat-out ridiculous.

I agree that his chances are better in Atlanta but I still don't see them coming anywhere close to winning a Superbowl in the next two years.

DeezNutz

04-12-2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5662030)

this. A 2nd round pick #55 in ATL. I wouldn't be surprised if Gonzo says no thanks I quit

He wouldn't want to play for ATL, but he would want to play for KC? What?

OnTheWarpath15

04-12-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianChief (Post 5662046)

I agree that his chances are better in Atlanta but I still don't see them coming anywhere close to winning a Superbowl in the next two years.

No one can guarantee him a SB ring.

But to say that ATL won't come close is once again foolish, considering they were closer LAST year than 20 other teams.

You have to MAKE the playoffs to win the SB, last I checked.

keg in kc

04-12-2009 10:54 AM

For a second rounder? Get it done yesterday.

OnTheWarpath15

04-12-2009 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5662050)

He wouldn't want to play for ATL, but he would want to play for KC? What?

No shit.

Franchise QB getting me the ball.

2 damn good WR's to keep me from being doubled.

A solid OL that gives the QB time.

A great running game to open up the pass.

An offensive coordinator that doesn't shit the bed in goal-to-go situations.

Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world to pass on ATL and stay in KC.

Bwana

04-12-2009 10:55 AM

A 2nd? If that's the case, see ya Tony.

RealSNR

04-12-2009 10:57 AM

Yeah, go to the Falcons, Tony. THAT'LL win you a Super Bowl :shake:

OnTheWarpath15

04-12-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5662063)

Yeah, go to the Falcons, Tony. THAT'LL win you a Super Bowl :shake:

And staying in KC will get him what?

About 10 more wins over the next 2 years?

Atlanta at least gives him an opportunity, surrounded by a phenomenal cast.

RealSNR

04-12-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5662064)

And staying in KC will get him what?

About 10 more wins over the next 2 years?

Atlanta at least gives him an opportunity, surrounded by a phenomenal cast.

I didn't say he had an opportunity in KC. I'm just saying the opportunity isn't there in Atlanta. That team is still 2 or 3 years away.

wazu	04-12-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 5662014)

Tony G = HOF
History of 2nd rd Chiefs picks = can create a new town called Bustville.

The Chiefs second-rounders are irrelevant. Let's look at how the Pats have done recently:

2000 - RB - J.R. Redmond - Off team
2001 - OT - Matt Light - Pro-Bowler
2002 - WR - Deion Branch - Traded for first round pick in 2006
2003a - DB - Eugene Wilson - Off team
2003b - WR - Bethel Johnson - Off team
2004 - DE - Marquise Hill - Off team
2005 - (no pick)
2006 - WR - Chad Jackson - Off team
2007 - (no pick)
2008 - CB - Terrence Wheatley - Started 6 of 8 games before injury

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