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Bowser 04-12-2009 06:54 PM

It would be nice to have Gonzalez as a security blanket for Cassell, but if Atl is really offering a second rounder for a 34 year old tight end, you take it with sincere thanks.

SBK 04-12-2009 07:46 PM

Trading Gonzo means we need an actual #2 WR. We might have that on the roster, but I doubt it.

Rookie WR's don't usually do anything, so it'll be interesting.

Touchdown Bowe 04-12-2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5664036)
Trading Gonzo means we need an actual #2 WR. We might have that on the roster, but I doubt it.

Rookie WR's don't usually do anything, so it'll be interesting.

Yeah..Randy Moss' rookie year was a joke..and Donnie Avery and Eddie Royals rookie years were jokes also

Coogs 04-12-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Touchdown Bowe (Post 5664148)
Yeah..Randy Moss' rookie year was a joke..and Donnie Avery and Eddie Royals rookie years were jokes also

Our very own D. Wayne Bowe put up damn nice numbers his rookie season, and followed it up with a pretty fair sophmore season. Given the state of our QB's, HC, OC, DC, O-line, and RB you wold have to think he could do even better sometime in the near future.

Put a solid WR on the opposite side... Crabtree maybe... and things open up for everyone involved. RB's and even TE's. Cottom could flourish running the middle with not much coverage.

bdeg 04-12-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5664186)
Our very own D. Wayne Bowe put up damn nice numbers his rookie season, and followed it up with a pretty fair sophmore season. Given the state of our QB's, HC, OC, DC, O-line, and RB you wold have to think he could do even better sometime in the near future.

Put a solid WR on the opposite side... Crabtree maybe... and things open up for everyone involved. RB's and even TE's. Cottom could flourish running the middle with not much coverage.

Yup, Bowe is ideally an amazing #2. But pair him with a speedy #2 that can stretch the field and he's decent #1.

I'm looking forward to seeing Cottam develop along with Charles.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5663707)
WTF do we need to spend ANOTHER pick on a TE for?

Haley's offense doesn't use the TE anyway.

Build for the future, not wasting picks trying to fill a HOF'ers shoes.

It wouldn't hurt to draft one late.

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5664973)
It wouldn't hurt to draft one late.

Can't disagree with that.

But there are plenty of people here who think we have to turn that 2nd round pick we'd get for TG into another TE.

SBK 04-13-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Touchdown Bowe (Post 5664148)
Yeah..Randy Moss' rookie year was a joke..and Donnie Avery and Eddie Royals rookie years were jokes also

I say 'don't usually do anything' and you bring in as evidence 3 WR's, one of who had the best rookie season in NFL history.

I swear people don't read. When a rookie WR has a good year it's considered a surprise, why do you think that is?

DTLB58 04-13-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5663769)
I think the idea that Tony Gonzalez is a leader is pretty overblown...he cares about his personal stats and all that but team leader I've never seen that.

And if your TE is your big play guy that's really all you need to know about needing players.

Maybe Pioli thinks the same thing since they are trying to build a team with the "right" 53 players.

Great Expectations 04-14-2009 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5663376)
We drafted Cottam last year. It's ****ing reerunED to spend another pick on a TE

I don't understand this mentality. I don't think it matters who we drafted last year or the 10 years before that. The previouse regimes blew at the draft outside of the secondary, one offensive lineman, and one wide receiver.

We need to draft on what we need, if we need a TE draft one. If we need a DT draft one, if we need an OL draft one. You have to move forward, if we keep waiting on Herm's players to develop we won't get much better.

Coogs 04-14-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 5668113)
We need to draft on what we need, if we need a TE draft one. If we need a DT draft one, if we need an OL draft one.

:shake:

If two players are rated equal at the pick, then yeah, probably go with the need.

Last night on Total Access, right at the end of the show they did their standard 4 Downs question. One of the questions was "Would aquiring TG put Atlanta in the Super Bowl hunt?" (Or something pretty close to that, as I am paraphrasing)

The reply was something like this...

TE's don't win you Super Bowls...

Chiefnj2 04-14-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5668136)
:shake:

If two players are rated equal at the pick, then yeah, probably go with the need.

Last night on Total Access, right at the end of the show they did their standard 4 Downs question. One of the questions was "Would aquiring TG put Atlanta in the Super Bowl hunt?" (Or something pretty close to that, as I am paraphrasing)

The reply was something like this...

TE's don't win you Super Bowls...

I don't think the Ravens win the Super Bowl without Sharpe. He was their only source of big plays in the playoffs.

Coogs 04-14-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5668147)
I don't think the Ravens win the Super Bowl without Sharpe. He was their only source of big plays in the playoffs.


That's true. But IIRC, even Sharpe was more of an accsessory piece to a powerful running game/play action pass type offense than a main option of the offense. He just happened to take routine pass plays to the house due to great athletic ability and some poor tackling.


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