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htismaqe 04-26-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5716775)
meaning at least several teams didn't have him rated as a first rounder 4 weeks ago? ouch? if i believed it

I think New England might have had him rated as a 1st rounder all along and as the guys like Pioli, McDaniels, and Mangini got settled in their new gigs and really dug into the draft, they moved him in as well.

bdeg 04-26-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5716769)
You seem pretty excited about the Washington pick. Relatively speaking.

Classic underachiever, but it's hard to complain about a guy with his upside in the 4th.

bdeg 04-26-2009 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5716783)
I must say, this is not an exciting draft for me. My hope is that it's a foundation-building draft, getting a lot of guys who will take us from Herm to solid, and then next year we add the sizzle. I'm not seeing a lot of game-changers, though.

I'm optimistic, though, because Pioli is a deity and I'm clueless.

Agree, I think that's exactly what this is. Building from the inside out, if we hadn't added some linemen a pass rusher may not have mattered. It was obvious anyone could run over us at will last season. 5 yds per carry was almost a given, some teams were getting 5 rushing first downs on 5 plays. but what a boring first day, I was sooo disappointed we couldn't trade down, not that I think the pick is terrible.

Saccopoo 04-26-2009 07:28 PM

I wish it was Cody Brown.

Anyway...

1. Tyson Jackson, DE; LSU
Grade: B+
- Everyone seems to agree that this was the best 3-4 DE in the draft and we needed one. However, at the #3 spot he was generally regarded as a bit of a reach. One hopes that Jackson ends up being a clone of Richard Seymour in order to justify this high of a pick in the draft. Crabtree or Curry might have been sexier, Monroe might have provided more immediate help, but no one could argue that our defense was borderline incompetent last season. At least we didn't end up with BJ Raji.

If I was picking: Aaron Curry, LB; Wake Forest

3. Alex Magee, DT; Purdue
Grade: D-
- Completely mitigates three years of high round draft choices on the defensive line. Either our current roster is utterly devoid of talent at the D-line positions, or the current staff feels that no one other than Tank (potentially) is capable of playing in a 3-4 system. If we end up trading guys like Hali, McBride and Dorsey for appropriate picks (1st, 2nd, 1st respectively) or players that will immediately contribute, this pick might make sense, but as of right now, it is completely illogical.

If I was picking: Kraig Urbik, OG; Wisconsin

4. Donald Washington, CB; Ohio State
Grade: D
- Carr and Flowers make this a borderline bad pick just for depth purposes. An offensive lineman (Jon Luigs, Troy Kropog) or a quality wide receiver (Austin Collie or Mike Thomas) would have been a much more understandable and justified pick.

If I was picking: Austin Collie, WR; BYU

5. Colin Brown, OT; Missouri
Grade: F
- Wow. Just wow. Might end up a Pro Bowler, but wouldn't a seventh round pick or a free agent contract been a bit more appropriate, especially considering how many quality, higher regarded offensive line prospects were still on the board? Guys like Duke Robinson, Jamon Meredith and

My pick: Fenuki Tupou, OT; Oregon

6. Quinten Lawrence, WR; McNeese State B-
Grade: C
- Special teamer with speed.

My pick: Darry Beckwith, ILB; LSU

7. Javarris Williams, RB; Tennessee State
Grade: B+
- I like this pick. Guy has good speed, is big in a squatty sort of way, nice hands. Will be a good special teams player and might make his way onto the roster as a Kimble Anders type fullback/H-back type of player.

My pick: I concur with this pick, and mentioned Williams as a potential in one of my mocks.

7. Jake O'Connell, TE; Miami-Ohio
Grade: C
- Seems to be very athletic with really good combine/pro day type numbers. (4.66 in the 40, 28 reps on the bench and a 41 inch vertical) In the seventh, I don't mind taking a high level athlete as a potential special teams guy who can make a push for a tight end spot.

My pick: Ray Feinga, OG; BYU

7. Ryan Succop, K; South Carolina
Grade: B-
- Need help in the kicking game, and picking a kicker here isn't a bad thing. Was pretty consistent prior to the injury in his senior season on both kicks and punts. Not as accurate/clutch as someone like Sakoda, but seems like an okay pick.

My pick: Louie Sakoda, K/P; Utah

rtmike 04-26-2009 08:23 PM

The cornerback pick was the only one that really surprised me.

I thought we were set with Mo' Leggett & the two Brandon's. We just picked up Travis Daniels too. Counting Ricardo that's 6, 7 if you count Quentin.

Apparently the staff is happy with the safety & offensive lineman play?

googlegoogle 04-26-2009 08:46 PM

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KCrockaholic 04-26-2009 08:52 PM

Tyson Jackson - B

Alex Magee - B-

Donald Washington - C+

Colin Brown - C-

Quintin(sp?) Lawrence - B+

Javarris Williams - B

Jake O'Connell - D-

Ryan Succop - B+

DaneMcCloud 04-26-2009 09:19 PM

1. DE Tyson Jackson, LSU Grade: C-

My pick: Mark Sanchez, QB

2. Matt Cassell/Mike Vrabel Grade: C

My pick: Max Unger, C

3. Alex Magee, DT; Purdue Grade: D-

My pick: Kraig Urbick, OT

4. Donald Washington, CB; Ohio State Grade: F-

My pick: Louis Murphy, WR

5. Colin Brown, OT; Missouri Grade: F-

My pick: Cornelius Ingram, TE Florida

6. Quinten Lawrence, WR; McNeese State Grade: C+

My pick: Kevin Ellison, S USC

7a. Javarris Williams, RB; Tennessee State Grade: B+

My pick: Javarris Williams

7b. Jake O'Connell, TE; Miami-Ohio Grade: C-

My pick: Lance Louis, G San Diego State

7c. Ryan Succop, K South Carolina Grade: B+

My pick: Ryan Succop

buddha 04-26-2009 09:26 PM

First of all, any and all of you who don't know that we drafted COLIN Brown in the fifth instead of Cody Brown, you obviously have NO BASIS to form an opinion because you don't even know who was picked. Second, how many of you have actually seen Brown play? Dude is one big, strong hombre, and when you're looking for a really big guy with good feet and long arms, that's a pretty nice selection.

...oh, I get it. He was supposed to go in the 7th round, right? Well, then yes...he's obviously worthless then. You're right, Pioli's wrong.

Ask Gary Pinkel what he thinks of Colin Brown some time? This is a very high character kid and he will help this team.

Chiefnj2 04-26-2009 09:27 PM

C-. Each pick is a C-.

DaneMcCloud 04-26-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 5717333)
First of all, any and all of you who don't know that we drafted COLIN Brown in the fifth instead of Cody Brown, you obviously have NO BASIS to form an opinion because you don't even know who was picked. Second, how many of you have actually seen Brown play? Dude is one big, strong hombre, and when you're looking for a really big guy with good feet and long arms, that's a pretty nice selection.

...oh, I get it. He was supposed to go in the 7th round, right? Well, then yes...he's obviously worthless then. You're right, Pioli's wrong.

Ask Gary Pinkel what he thinks of Colin Brown some time? This is a very high character kid and he will help this team.

Did you watch the Senior Bowl? How about LSU?

For my money, I'm taking Herman Johnson if I'm going for a super-sized tackle/guard. Not a guy who played various positions along the offensive line in the "Spread".

KCFalcon59 04-26-2009 10:25 PM

1. DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - B - Hope he does well

3. DE Alex Magee, Purdue - B -Hope he does well

4. CB Donald Washington, Ohio State - B- - Hope he does well

5. OT Colin Brown, Missouri - F - WTF

6. WR Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State - C- - Hopefully he can be a good KR.

7. RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee State - B - Great physique. Hope he does well.

7. TE Jake O'Connell, Miami OH - F - WTF

7. K Ryan Succop, South Carolina - F - Irrelevant

OnTheWarpath15 04-26-2009 10:42 PM

1. DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - D

You'll never convince me that a 5 technique is worth the 3rd overall pick. If you're going to reach, at least take a guy at an impact position like Raji.



3. DE Alex Magee, Purdue - C

Again, a pick that was forced by Pioli and Company changing schemes, regardless of the fact that none of our young talent fits said scheme.



4. CB Donald Washington, Ohio State - B-

Didn't really need a CB, but at least was decent value. Lawrence Sidbury would have been just as good a value, and at a position of desperate need. There's no one on this roster that can rush the passer.



5. OT Colin Brown, Missouri - F

Passing on Jamon Meridith, Fenuki Topou and Xavier Fulton for this guy? Incomprehensible.



6. WR Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State - B

Probably our best value pick - should be our return man on opening day.



7. RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee State - D

If you feel the need for a RB, how do you pass on Rashad Jennings?



7. TE Jake O'Connell, Miami OH - F

Not only do you take ANOTHER TE, you spend a 2010 pick to do it - passing on guys like Dannell Ellerbe and Trevor Canfield in the process - both positions of great need.



7. K Ryan Succop, South Carolina - F

Mr. Irrelevant really lived up to his name this year.

Micjones 04-26-2009 10:51 PM

Never fails.

Every year some draft genius on a message board touts a player to be the next big thing and he famously flames out in the NFL.

Every year some draft genius on a message board swears another player was a reach and is sure to bust...and that player goes on to be a stalwart for his franchise.

I choose to take the "wait and see" approach.
There's something ridiculous about sealing the fate of newly drafted players who've never taken the field.

Pablo 04-26-2009 10:52 PM

Jesus tits people.

I'd love to know just when the Chiefs drafted Cody Brown.


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