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Micjones 07-07-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 5884525)
i disagree. I don't see how he could be any worse than MacIntosh, especially when he seemed to play well at LT last year.

He was under 300 pounds last year and after the conditioning program, I'm guessing he's under 290.

Not...a road grader.

Mr. Krab 07-07-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5884531)
He was under 300 pounds last year and after the conditioning program, I'm guessing he's under 290.

Not...a road grader.

In a spread type offense a road grader RT is not needed nearly as much.

Micjones 07-07-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5884581)
In a spread type offense a road grader RT is not needed nearly as much.

Our offense will be quite a bit more conventional under Haley I think.
And I honestly don't think Taylor's a long-term answer there.
He's just too small. I bet he's 285 right now.

kepp 07-07-2009 10:49 AM

Keep doubtin' Colin Brown

talastan 07-07-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 5884591)
Keep doubtin' Colin Brown

This, I hope Brown shows enough in camp and preseason to put Sackintosh on the bench.

Buehler445 07-07-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5884531)
He was under 300 pounds last year and after the conditioning program, I'm guessing he's under 290.

Not...a road grader.

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5884589)
Our offense will be quite a bit more conventional under Haley I think.
And I honestly don't think Taylor's a long-term answer there.
He's just too small. I bet he's 285 right now.

I'm not going to go through what you, Dane, and I talked about in a different thread. But quick recap:
  • It isn't optimum, but if Herb is better than McIntosh, get his ass in there.
  • He is not a a road grader, but neither is McIntosh
  • If Herb is as talented as everyone thinks (he did pretty well when Albert was injured), it is dumb to only play him behind Albert. Especially when McIntosh sucked a fat dick last year.
  • Even if it is for a year, put him out there and make him earn it henceforth.

Optimally though, Richardson lives up to his talent and becomes a dominant RT.

Mr. Krab 07-07-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5884589)
Our offense will be quite a bit more conventional under Haley I think.
And I honestly don't think Taylor's a long-term answer there.
He's just too small. I bet he's 285 right now.

I don't know about Taylor but i don't see how we can conclude that Haley will be more conventional when he gave up on the running game as much as he did with Arizona. If the passing game works and the running game doesn't, Haley is just as likely to go shotgun spread and only use draws and sweeps as he is anything.

cmh6476 07-07-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5884839)
I'm not going to go through what you, Dane, and I talked about in a different thread. But quick recap:
  • It isn't optimum, but if Herb is better than McIntosh, get his ass in there.
  • He is not a a road grader, but neither is McIntosh
  • If Herb is as talented as everyone thinks (he did pretty well when Albert was injured), it is dumb to only play him behind Albert. Especially when McIntosh sucked a fat dick last year.
  • Even if it is for a year, put him out there and make him earn it henceforth.

Optimally though, Richardson lives up to his talent and becomes a dominant RT.

this is my thinking as well. We know what MacIntosh has to offer, and at the tail end of a career at that. It's not going to be good enough in my opinion. I would rather see Taylor, Richardson or Brown get the playing time and hopefully one of those guys shows enough promise at the position to at least put MacIntosh's ass on the bench. Even if Herb isn't the long-term answer, maybe he can play the position better than MacIntosh would. And it isn't like Taylor is going to be able to ever play LT for us, that's what Albert will hopefully be doing for the next 5-7+ years. Let's see what Herb can do at RT. If he pans out then all the better, if not maybe one of the other youngsters can step up, and if not then you know you need to address the position next year.

Blick 07-07-2009 12:40 PM

Might as well give Taylor a shot at RT, but I don't think he's big and strong enough to block left ends consistently. He'd be fine in pass protection. But, left ends would eat his lunch in the run game.

Titty Meat 07-07-2009 12:53 PM

Taylor played good at RT

Blick 07-07-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 5885005)
Taylor played good at RT

in college.

He hasn't played enough RT for the Chiefs to make a good assessment of his play.

Micjones 07-07-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5884878)
I don't know about Taylor but i don't see how we can conclude that Haley will be more conventional when he gave up on the running game as much as he did with Arizona.

He's gone on the record as having said he will tailor his scheme to the offensive pieces he has. We do not have the kind of personnel that Arizona does.

Micjones 07-07-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5884839)
[*]It isn't optimum

Why then would we force a square peg into a round hole and pretend he's a long-term solution there?

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but if Herb is better than McIntosh, get his ass in there.
That remains to be seen. He hasn't played downs at RT that we can assess.
And to assume that he'll play as well on the right side, in the NFL, is silly.
None of us know that he'll be able to make the transition without missing a beat.

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Optimally though, Richardson lives up to his talent and becomes a dominant RT.
That'd be ideal, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen.
The guy doesn't have the right head on his shoulders to do that.

Titty Meat 07-07-2009 02:54 PM

Taylor played RT in pre-season he did good. If he does better then Mcintosh why shouldn't he be the starter? Haley said everythings an open competition

Micjones 07-07-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 5885306)
Taylor played RT in pre-season he did good.

He was so good in fact, he couldn't beat out the guy who had never played RT in his entire NFL career?


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