Battle and Mays.

Make sure we get Croyle's brain in there. Just need Thiggy's legs.

I'd have to think Thigpen has some decent tradevalue as long as he's going to a team that features the Wildcat/spread offense. Should have decent value actually given his performance last year. Maybe a 6th RD pick which could turn into a conditional 5th? Hopefully we can swing a deal for him because last time I checked, he was pretty much last on our depth chart and is really on the bubble regarding whether he even makes our roster at the final-cutdown time.

Fixed it.

So which is it: Either Thigpin is on the bubble and likely not to make the roster or he has decent trade value? He can't be both...

This, pretty much. The lack of overall talent shows.

The Chiefs' radio guys said it was Albert, too, so you're right.

If Croyle makes the roster, no way you cant keep Thigpen. Its not like Croyle has shown the ability to make a season let alone a game. If Croyle ever makes it in a game... be rest assured... so will Thigpen.

was engram/toomer playing tonight?

Well to elaborate, Thigpen has very little value to us but would have value to a team running the spread. My comment from earlier assumes that Gutierrez will eventually beat him out for the #3 QB spot. Given Gutierrez's history with Pioli and experience in this offense, this is a very realistic possibility. My thoughts on trading him involve us parting with him before too much time passes so that other teams don't pick up on the fact that he might not make our team, therefore, he'd still have some tradevalue based upon performance last year. But yes, you're right, no one will give us anything for him if it's three days before final roster cutdown and Gutierrez has already moved ahead of him on the depth chart.

Hope that makes more sense....

Watching the game over again quickly, there were a few things that jumped out at me...

* LJ missed a HUGE hole on the first drive when Gailey dialed up a draw play. There was a cutback lane with Darling coming down to crack back, and LJ completely missed it. He would still be running.

* Devard Darling set up wrong on the WR slip screen. He came in motion, and should have stopped right where he ended in motion. Instead he came back inside to the ball, and got caught up with the LB's. If he would have stayed outside, he most likely would have picked up the 10+ yards and then some. Instead, it was a short gain.

* Cassell missed Mike Cox short for a first down on his roll out right to avoid pressure. Cox came open very late, and would have been an easier pass for Cassell hitting Cox on the run rather than hitting Ryan on the sideline...which he dropped. Still a good play by Cassell.

* The defense got good pressure. Especially Hali, Dorsey and Jackson. Mays was magnificent, and McGee kept showing up all over the place. The frustrating play for me was the long 3rd and 10 Houston converted. Re-watching, It was actually decent D in which Houston had the perfect O call on to pick up the first down.
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It does, thanks. What confuses me is that Gutierrez was cut by the Pats for that scrub Andrew Walter. How good could he possibly be? (Gutierrez, I mean)

Great question...I wondered about this too. I didn't see either on the field, ever. I saw Engram give Thigpen a pat on the back after his TD pass so it was clear to me that he at least suited up. I never saw Toomer at all.

I wonder if tonight's game will push Haley into a decision, one way or another on whether or not to sign Ashley Lelie....

You know, that sort of baffled me too. At this point last year, I thought I remember hearing that Gutierrez was actually ahead of Cassel on the depth chart or that some people in New England thought he would make a better backup. Gutierrez just turned 25, maybe the Patriots wanted a more experienced QB, where as KC was happy to land a QB who had experience in the offense they were looking to install?