I don't have my head buried in the sand. It's just an idiotic position for those people to take, and it tells me they aren't worth listening to. Or, to put it another way....

At Patsfans.com, earlier this year, there was actually a thread where people were arguing that the team should keep Cassel and trade Brady. That thread immediately let me know who the biggest assclowns on the board were.

The notion that Croyle's going to beat out Cassel if Cassel's healthy isn't quite that reeruned, but it's trying hard to achieve that status.

No job is safe in football. Unless Herm is your coach.

Let's not forget that Herm is a quarterback's worst nightmare.

It IS possible Croyle might survive in the NFL given competent coaching + protection.

If Croyle and Thigpen could be traded, they should be. If that's not possible, they should be cut.

Both are about as useful as a gorgeous pair of tits on a bear.

No, it's not.

That fragile sumbitch was hurt in his first camp when he fell over a lineman. Give me a ****ing break.

Secret Service couldn't protect his ass. ****ing coaching and line. What a joke.

I had heard that he about got cut but who knows how true that is.

And anyway it's preseason no one should really be flipping out.

I didn't think it was possible, but my man-crush on Haley has now grown to man-love. Lost at the end of the article was this:

No Favre crap, no sugarcoating, he pretty much said they suck. I love it.


As far as Cassel/Croyle/Thigpen goes, is Bowe running with the 1st team? Because if he's not, that would explain why Cassel isn't doing well in scrimmages... Maybe...

Cassel was a 7th round draft choice for a reason.. I am hoping he is worth a shit, but wont be surprised if he is gone within 3-4 years as we continue to get better.

And no I dont think Croyle is the answer either, but neither is Mark Castle...

JFC, this shit again? Tom Brady was a 6th round choice for a reason. Joe Montana was a 3rd round choice for a reason. Everyone is a choice where they are taken for a reason. Ryan Leaf was a 1st round choice for a reason. Once you're drafted, it doesn't mean shit beyond your first contract numbers.

Cassel played well enough last year to get a very large contract. If he threw nothing but interceptions from today until the end of the exhibition season, he'd probably still be the opening day starter for the Chiefs.

Instead, he played the first exhibition games with receivers who aren't the starters, and put 4 of 5 passes into their hands. The receivers dropped 2 of the passes, making it look as if Cassel struggled. I'm pretty sure that Haley's got the tape and understands that.

Next comes the bromance

Well Cassel was playing on the most offensively talented team in the league..

This is to early to just be making snap judgments but at the same time it's not given that this will work out.

There should be a ban on all threads that spawn from an opinion of Kent Babb.

I'm not arguing that. What Cassel does with the job once the season starts is a separate issue. I'm talking about the "Someone IS pushing Matt Cassel..." comments. The only way Croyle's going to start over Cassel is if he pulls a Tonya Harding and gets Cassel's knee whacked.

Of course, given Croyle's injury history, he'd probably break his throwing hand giving the thugs the cash for the job.

Yea if the Chiefs benched Cassel after he got that contract everyone would call the front office a bunch of babbling monkeys.

There is certainly a disparaging lack of talent on this team, but it sounds like he is struggling with throws, something that has nothing to do with the lack of talent around him. That's whats troubling at this point in camp. But there's a ways to go yet.