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TEX 09-01-2009 02:57 PM

Shoot - it's about time. The Chiefs have been one of the worst teams in football over the past 2 seasons, and have gotten worse as each season played out. When you think that they have only made the playoffs twice in 10 years, I'm not surprised in the least.

HemiEd 09-01-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6022202)
luckily the Jayhawks sell out all their home games

fixed it

TEX 09-01-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by modocsot (Post 6022668)
If it's blacked out locally, it's blacked out on Sunday Ticket too, right?

Some have said yes, but I remember a few years back visiting friends in Frisco who had Sunday Ticket, and they always got the 49'ers games even though they weren't sold out and they lived within the local black out area. I'd call to be sure.

kc rush 09-01-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6022316)
It isn't that much. KCTV only gets three total local breaks (@12 spots) throughout the game. The other 17 breaks (@68 spots) are national and that money goes to the network not the local affiliate or team.

But the local ratings are huge, helping the station set higher spot rates for non-football dates and times. Granted, any advertiser worth their salt would know that the average rating has been influenced by the games and would negotiate, but not everyone is that smart.

HemiEd 09-01-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by modocsot (Post 6022668)
If it's blacked out locally, it's blacked out on Sunday Ticket too, right?

Not in out of market locations.

Mojo Jojo 09-01-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 6022964)
But the local ratings are huge, helping the station set higher spot rates for non-football dates and times. Granted, any advertiser worth their salt would know that the average rating has been influenced by the games and would negotiate, but not everyone is that smart.

Yes and no. KCTV sells the Chiefs football package...that is x-spots for 16 games. The question comes down to are you making enough to cover your cost of buying unused tickets from the road and home sellouts. No rates for anything else are ever set by football games. Prime time and special events set their own rates...that's why we have have sweeps. The Chiefs ratings 12:00 to 6:00 depending on kickoff has nothing to do with the ad price of The Ellen DeGeneres Show...3:00 on KCTV...same time slot.

007 09-01-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by modocsot (Post 6022668)
If it's blacked out locally, it's blacked out on Sunday Ticket too, right?

That has got to be the dumbest thing the NFL has ever done. Pimp the Sunday ticket but then say your local team is still blacked out even though you pay a premium for the right to see it on that package.

Nzoner 09-01-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6022736)
Only if you are in the "home market". If the Chiefs are blacked out then if you have Sunday Ticket it will be blacked out in KC, Lawrence, Topeka, Columbia...
but outside of that you will still get the game.

St Joe would probably be included as well

JD10367 09-01-2009 06:15 PM

Dumb question: if it's blacked out on local TV, and blacked out on local Sunday Ticket... can it still be shown in sportsbars in the KC area? (In other words, to the blackout rules for "home consumer" Sunday Ticket apply to sportsbars?)

Mr. Flopnuts 09-01-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6023638)
Dumb question: if it's blacked out on local TV, and blacked out on local Sunday Ticket... can it still be shown in sportsbars in the KC area? (In other words, to the blackout rules for "home consumer" Sunday Ticket apply to sportsbars?)

No. They have access to it, unlike consumers but if they get caught showing the game it's something like a $5000 fine.

MahiMike 09-01-2009 06:31 PM

Yet another reason to buy NFL Rewind!

Bugeater 09-01-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6022221)
With the economy the way it is.....I just don't understand why people would spend lots of money to actually go to the game, drink and eat overpriced consessions and pay out the ass for parking. Yes it's a good time, but money wise, especially now, it doesn't make sense. Especially the way HDTV and DVR has impacted television and sporting events.

I'm not so sure it's the economy as much as people are getting sick of shelling out more and more each year for a mediocre product. I couldn't help but notice all the teams that are having problems are teams that suck.

Spott 09-01-2009 06:56 PM

Jacksonville isn't going to be anywhere close to selling out any of their games. Their season ticket base dropped from 42,000 to 25,000 this year. They have gotten lucky and avoided a lot of blackouts the past few seasons by having local sponsors buy the extra tickets and covering up over 9,000 seats. The only time they have true sellouts is when another team like Pittsburgh brings a ton of their fans.

Imon Yourside 09-01-2009 06:57 PM

Hello Mitch, Len and Torrents after the game. ;)

Mojo Jojo 09-01-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 6023765)
Jacksonville isn't going to be anywhere close to selling out any of their games. Their season ticket base dropped from 42,000 to 25,000 this year. They have gotten lucky and avoided a lot of blackouts the past few seasons by having local sponsors buy the extra tickets and covering up over 9,000 seats. The only time they have true sellouts is when another team like Pittsburgh brings a ton of their fans.

Actually it has been three years since the Jags have had sponsors or local TV buy tickets to create a sellout. New Jags front office didn't want to create a fan base of sit at home and watch the game...see Chiefs.

The Jags and Rams are the only two teams to be honest and say they can't sell the tickets. Of course, both teams are looking to move and this helps the cause.


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