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InChiefsHeaven 09-15-2009 06:30 AM

THe only thing I really disagree about your post is the idea that the Ravens didn't look so hot...500+ yards of offense against any team is impressive.

luv 09-15-2009 06:34 AM

Just because the Chiefs had anyone worried for awhile is no reason for them to worry the remainder of the season.

And this statement isn't as sarcastic as it would have been meant if I had said it a week ago.

Skip Towne 09-15-2009 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 6074564)
THe only thing I really disagree about your post is the idea that the Ravens didn't look so hot...500+ yards of offense against any team is impressive.

If Flacco was the least bit accurate they'd have had 700 yards.

InChiefsHeaven 09-15-2009 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6074571)
If Flacco was the least bit accurate they'd have had 700 yards.

Still. 500 yards does not equal "not so hot".

old_geezer 09-15-2009 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 6074563)
You really think the Ravens didn't look good? I thought they looked really good. There was a couple of plays that kept the Chiefs in that game. They were not necessarily fluke plays but they were not plays you can count on each game. They were the type of plays that makes a good team beat great teams. And yet we still managed to lose.

From what I saw the Chiefs are really really bad. Probably worse then last year. I hope I am wrong. But I don't think the Ravens looked bad. Their D was good and there offense looked like it had improved ten fold.


We were starting Brodie croyle for God's sake. If we are stuck with Croyle and Thigpen this year then, yea, we're screwed. But I have hopes for Cassell and I saw a team that played hard and fought to the end. I also saw a defense still trying to find itself and without it's best player (Flowers). Our talent is lacking but I like the direction we seem to be going. We're not playoff contenders this year but I'll take this years' team over last years' team any day.

BigRichard 09-15-2009 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 6074588)
We were starting Brodie croyle for God's sake. If we are stuck with Croyle and Thigpen this year then, yea, we're screwed. But I have hopes for Cassell and I saw a team that played hard and fought to the end. I also saw a defense still trying to find itself and without it's best player (Flowers). Our talent is lacking but I like the direction we seem to be going. We're not playoff contenders this year but I'll take this years' team over last years' team any day.

I thought Croyle played pretty well actually. I don't think that game goes any better if Cassel is running the show. The D might have looked a little better with Flowers but not that much better. We are severly lacking in talent. I am not necessarily blaming anyone besides past regimes but the fact still remains they looked horrible.

Demonpenz 09-15-2009 07:50 AM

I watched mad men, and I learned in the 50's you could put plastic sacks over kids's heads, you could slap other kids faces if they were acting up and you knew the father, woman didn't mean shit and were made just to grope, and that my nephew's aunt is dating the actor that is don draper

Bearcat 09-15-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6074543)
Going to turn this thread serious, since there are a bunch of threads on the main page which actually touch on my point and I'm too lazy to dupe-post in all of 'em....

It's very hard to tell what's "for real" when it's only Week One. What we've seen might be true indications of a team, or simply because it's, well, the first week. Players are shaking off the rust, settling into their roles. In '04 the Bills blew out New England; didn't seem to indicate how that season would go. In '07, the Giants didn't look so hot for half a year; it ended okay for them.

At first glance, it looks like the "beasts" might not be so good, and the "pushovers" better than expected. Although three lost and the fourth SHOULD have, the Chiefs, Raiders, Bills, and Broncos all put up a good fight, much better than anyone expected. On the other side of the ball, the Ravens, Chargers, and Patriots didn't look so hot. Does this mean KC, Buffalo, Oakland, and Denver are all playoff-bound? Probably not. And it probably doesn't mean that Baltimore, San Diego, and New England will have losing records.

We really can't judge things off one game. It's best to judge things in four-game sets. The Chiefs gave up a crapload of yards and points to Baltimore. Is that because Baltimore's O will be unstoppable, or is it because the Chiefs' D sucks ass? Well, let's revisit that after the next three games. :shrug:

I know it sounds like fence-sitting but, really, one week does not make a basis for judging how a team will play, and how a team will end up. What you can take, as a more accurate indicator, is attitude, and flashes from certain players. But even that's not always concrete (e.g. that Buffalo/NE game in '04, where the Bills looked unstoppable and Brady looked like crap).

This week's Oakland/KC tilt looks like a good one. But whichever team wins, be it by 1 or by 40, doesn't really mean that team is that much better or worse. It's a long year.

You're exactly right, but it's funny that any of this even has to be said, and that it's said every year. I guess it comes with the territory, since there are so many 'experts' that want to be the first to analyze every little thing and make a story out of anything that will get people talking... and the internet makes it so easy for anyone to post their drivel about how one loss is the end of the world or how the Raiders are going to win the AFC West because they scored first in their opener.

:doh!:

Baby Lee 09-15-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6074690)
I watched mad men, and I learned in the 50's you could put plastic sacks over kids's heads, you could slap other kids faces if they were acting up and you knew the father, woman didn't mean shit and were made just to grope, and that my nephew's aunt is dating the actor that is don draper

Wait!! You're related to

http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/8...0312175805.jpg

So, just how solid an item are they? [Starts furiously working out]

EyePod 09-15-2009 03:28 PM

Wow, I have now learned that you are very easily swayed. It was 1 week of football, you can't learn everything in the 1st week.

a. Sanchez wouldn't have been good behind our line
b. We have way too many picks invested in our d-line. I think the more observant fan would say that we should have invested a pick in a RT.
c. Kyle Orton was playing the Bengals. I could put up a 4th quarter comeback against the Bengals.
d. Cutler did have a bad game. I don't think you can say that he's that horrible yet. Wait until a few more games.
e. I don't bet on football because you're going to lose money in the end. I learned this by losing money while betting on football. The only time I broke even was when I was in a league long pick em league, but the problem was that you had to put in so much effort and learn about every team (I don't play FF either if you were wondering), especially because there was money involved.

So I guess in conclusion, wait until mid season and then revisit your current statements please.

Halfcan 09-15-2009 03:33 PM

the Cassel trade looks very bad right now-but if he comes out and kicks the shit out of the Faders this weekend-lots of folks will shut up for at least a week about Sanchez.

Iowanian 09-15-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 6073643)
the broncos raped denver? Interesting that they have talent to rape themselves

It sounds like they've listened better than I thought. I've been encouraging Denver to GFthemselves for a decade now.

MahiMike 09-15-2009 04:36 PM

I learned it's only week 1 of 17.

bevischief 09-15-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6074690)
I watched mad men, and I learned in the 50's you could put plastic sacks over kids's heads, you could slap other kids faces if they were acting up and you knew the father, woman didn't mean shit and were made just to grope, and that my nephew's aunt is dating the actor that is don draper

WTF?

ROFL


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