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Mile High Mania 09-15-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6074992)
Dorsey's got to be up there

:spock: Umm, I believe he's referring to #1 overall...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno1

loochy 09-15-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 6074961)
He was taken #2 overall sorry!!

Ok I'm reeruned. I just wanted to post some of Leaf's terribleness and some of our dominance though!

The Franchise 09-15-2009 10:09 AM

It's between Tim Couch, Alex Smith and Jamarcus Russell right now.

RealSNR 09-15-2009 10:11 AM

I don't think Jamarcus Russell would make the team on the other 31 franchises in this league. And here he is starting.

The guy's not smart, not accurate, and has no leadership at QB. The best play he made last night (outside of the 57 yard TD pass to Murphy) was his BLOCKING on that one screen.

Maybe it's just because the Raiders screwed him up. Either way, he sucks ass.

notorious 09-15-2009 10:16 AM

Thank god they were stupid enought to let Garcia go. He is not amazing, but with Garcia last night they probably win.

RNR 09-15-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6075049)
Thank god they were stupid enought to let Garcia go. He is not amazing, but with Garcia last night they probably win.

Sad but true

Dave Lane 09-15-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6074994)
:spock: Umm, I believe he's referring to #1 overall...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno1

This...

notorious 09-15-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6075051)
Sad but true

I wonder why teams keep cutting Garcia? He has his horrific games, but plays pretty good most of the time. He must be a terrible practice player.

htismaqe 09-15-2009 10:22 AM

It's arguable that he's even the worst in recent history, given that Alex Smith and Courtney Brown are on that list.

If you go back all the way, there's some doozies on there like Steve Emtman and Aundrey Bruce.

Dave Lane 09-15-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6074993)
Well, I think JR is bad... but, Alex Smith isn't even starting so I'd have to give him a nod over JR as the worst at this point.

What about Tim Couch?

If Russell didn't have that monster contract he would be cut right now he is horrible. The raiders are starting him because they have too. And Smith isn't great but compared to JR he's Joe Montana.

sedated 09-15-2009 10:29 AM

I watched quite a few LSU games when he was there, and have never been so shocked to see a guy taken #1 overall. He looked like a third rounder at best.

The_Doctor10 09-15-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6075055)
I wonder why teams keep cutting Garcia? He has his horrific games, but plays pretty good most of the time. He must be a terrible practice player.

He's an excellent practice player; he's notorious for being one of the hardest-working QBs in the NFL. Think of him as the David Eckstein of NFL QBs. He's not very big, he's got a very limited physical skill set, but he busts his ass day in and day out, and he knows how to lead football teams. The problem is, so many coaches won't want a QB who plays such a scramble-based style, and on the Raiders, where the QB has to throw it deep a lot, he's not gonna be effective.

The Eagles made a great pick-up yesterday for their offense; he's a better QB overall than Vick, far less polarizing in the public eye, and the vets in that room know what he's about, and what he can do.

The_Doctor10 09-15-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6075029)
It's between Tim Couch, Alex Smith and Jamarcus Russell right now.

Alex Smith never really had a chance; he had a revolving door of coordinators and systems, had some devastating shoulder injuries, and no protection or weapons outside of Gore. And it's not like he sat back and just cashed cheques; he re-negotiated his contract to stay a Niner, and he clearly wants to do something to justify his draft spot.

JaFatass wins this waddling away

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-15-2009 10:47 AM

Tim Couch > David Carr

CoMoChief 09-15-2009 10:51 AM

Alex Smith....Akili Smith, Tim Couch, David Carr etc.

Russell has better intangibles than all of them I would say.

But damn his accuracy needs to improve. but he throws a VERY pretty ball. ****in hand cannon of an arm. Like DV used to say. He can throw it through a car wash and not get it wet.


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