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DaFace 09-16-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6078443)
Lance Long Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) Weight: 186 lb (84 kg)
Bobby Wade Height: 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) Weight: 186 lb (84 kg)

lets get some more undersized receivers guys

That doesn't necessarily mean anything (see Eddie Royal). It's tough to be the #1 at that size, but that doesn't mean they can't play a big role in an offense.

milkman 09-16-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6078443)
Lance Long Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) Weight: 186 lb (84 kg)
Bobby Wade Height: 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) Weight: 186 lb (84 kg)

lets get some more undersized receivers guys

Steve Smith, 5'8", 185.

Buehler445 09-16-2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6078499)
Steve Smith, 5'8", 185.

Damn it, MM, I was about to inform him that Steve Smith was coming over to break his jaw.

yashi 09-16-2009 12:15 PM

Wes Welker, Lance Moore, DeSean Jackson... size doesn't matter, at least that's what I keep telling myself. :hmmm:

Micjones 09-16-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6078443)
Lance Long Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) Weight: 186 lb (84 kg)
Bobby Wade Height: 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) Weight: 186 lb (84 kg)

lets get some more undersized receivers guys

Steve Smith Height: 5 ft 9 in Weight: 185

2 inches shorter than Long AND Wade. He must suck!

Or... You must not watch much of the NFL.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-16-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6078443)
Lance Long Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) Weight: 186 lb (84 kg)
Bobby Wade Height: 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) Weight: 186 lb (84 kg)

lets get some more undersized receivers guys

If they can get open and catch the ball, I don't care if they are 5 ft.

salame 09-16-2009 12:31 PM

Randy Moss Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) Weight: 210 lb (95 kg)
Reggie Wayne Height: 6 ft 0 in (1.83 m) Weight: 198 lb (90 kg)
Andre Johnson Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 223 lb (101 kg)
Terrell Owens Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 224 lb (102 kg)
Jerry Rice Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 200 lb (91 kg)
Michael Irvin Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 207 lb (94 kg)
Dwayne Bowe Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 221 lb (100 kg)
Ochocinco Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 192 lb (87 kg)
Larry Fitzgerald Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 217 lb (98 kg)
Anquan Boldin Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 217 lb (98 kg)


you guys gave me 3 and I could keep going if I wanted
my point is the Haley is used to success with two elite receivers who can manhandle the corners and safeties
general thought is that if the receiver is taller than the corner he has a better chance to catch the football
or are you not familiar with common sense?

the reason I put rice and irvin in there is not because I think all the people I listed are equally talented but they are considered two of the better wrs to play the game

yashi 09-16-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6078582)
Randy Moss Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) Weight: 210 lb (95 kg)
Reggie Wayne Height: 6 ft 0 in (1.83 m) Weight: 198 lb (90 kg)
Andre Johnson Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 223 lb (101 kg)
Terrell Owens Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 224 lb (102 kg)
Jerry Rice Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 200 lb (91 kg)
Michael Irvin Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 207 lb (94 kg)
Dwayne Bowe Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 221 lb (100 kg)
Ochocinco Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 192 lb (87 kg)
Larry Fitzgerald Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 217 lb (98 kg)
Anquan Boldin Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 217 lb (98 kg)


you guys gave me 3 and I could keep going if I wanted
my point is the Haley is used to success with two elite receivers who can manhandle the corners and safeties
general thought is that if the receiver is taller than the corner he has a better chance to catch the football
or are you not familiar with common sense?

the reason I put rice and irvin in there is not because I think all the people I listed are equally talented but they are considered two of the better wrs to play the game

Steve Smith
Wes Welker
Eddie Royal
Santonio Holmes
Santana Moss
DeSean Jackson
Lance Moore
Devin Hester
Lee Evans
Ted Ginn
Donnie Avery

Of course there's going to be more quality big receivers. They have a natural advantage. But talent is infinitely more important.

The Franchise 09-16-2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6078582)
Randy Moss Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) Weight: 210 lb (95 kg)
Reggie Wayne Height: 6 ft 0 in (1.83 m) Weight: 198 lb (90 kg)
Andre Johnson Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 223 lb (101 kg)
Terrell Owens Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 224 lb (102 kg)
Jerry Rice Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 200 lb (91 kg)
Michael Irvin Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 207 lb (94 kg)
Dwayne Bowe Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight: 221 lb (100 kg)
Ochocinco Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 192 lb (87 kg)
Larry Fitzgerald Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 217 lb (98 kg)
Anquan Boldin Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 217 lb (98 kg)


you guys gave me 3 and I could keep going if I wanted
my point is the Haley is used to success with two elite receivers who can manhandle the corners and safeties
general thought is that if the receiver is taller than the corner he has a better chance to catch the football
or are you not familiar with common sense?

the reason I put rice and irvin in there is not because I think all the people I listed are equally talented but they are considered two of the better wrs to play the game

You do realize that we're not expecting Wade or Long to be our #1 receiver.....right?

Micjones 09-16-2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6078582)
you guys gave me 3 and I could keep going if I wanted
my point is the Haley is used to success with two elite receivers who can manhandle the corners and safeties

Haley coached Steve Breaston last year and he is exactly 1 inch taller/3 pounds heavier than Lance Long.
A difference that is probably pretty difficult to notice from eyeballing them.

For every great Wide Receiver who is 6' or taller I can name two bums equally as tall/big.

It's the talent that ultimately makes the difference.

Stop with this... Please.

Mecca 09-16-2009 04:02 PM

I can't believe Greg Jennings is in no one's WR list...

salame 09-16-2009 08:08 PM

Eddie Royal had one good year

RustShack 09-16-2009 08:19 PM

Seems like Long sucked balls in college for a school that wasn't even that good... I mean I wanted him because I heard the Cards like him a lot... but the stats surprise me.

Buehler445 09-16-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6079933)
Eddie Royal had one good year

Dude. I hope you're being sarcastic.

htismaqe 09-16-2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6078676)
Haley coached Steve Breaston last year and he is exactly 1 inch taller/3 pounds heavier than Lance Long.
A difference that is probably pretty difficult to notice from eyeballing them.

For every great Wide Receiver who is 6' or taller I can name two bums equally as tall/big.

It's the talent that ultimately makes the difference.

Stop with this... Please.

It's not just that. Steve Breaston wasn't really all that fast either. According to NFL Draft Scout, his low was 4.43 and his high was 4.51, so he's an average 4.46. Not only is he a productive reciever, they turned him into a RETURNER.


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