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Mr. Flopnuts 09-16-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6078760)
Depends on the product and level of person you're targeting... sales is a relationship business. Much like everything else, you have all sorts of people in sales... you get what you pay for in that regard.

If you want high quality reps that will maintain great relationships - be selective, make it worth their time and easy from the perspective of getting paid.

That always makes sense, but starting off with little to offer, choose wisely.

Buck 09-16-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6078747)
Remember, it's recurring. So 2 hours of work comes down to $180 a year. Which I would take happily.

Good point.

I want a little more incentive up front though.

Maybe $25 the month you land them, $20 from there on out.

Mile High Mania 09-16-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 6078758)
Is there a car / gas allowance? Do they start with a base salary until they build up clients? What is a livable wage in Austin? Let's just say to bring home $2,500 at $20 a sale that would be 125 sales or clients. Is that achievable?

It is what it is... $25 (my vote) per deal per month that you close. You're not an 'employee', you're an independent contractor and your geography is your territory. You're responsible for all expenses, you get no benefits... bust your ass and get 150 happy clients to pay their $100 a month.

$100 service X 150 clients X 12 months = $180,000 in revenue
The sales guy would receive $25 X 150 X 12 = $45,000 annually.

Do it right and this is a nice side gig.

Mr. Flopnuts 09-16-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6078763)
Good point.

I want a little more incentive up front though.

Maybe $25 the month you land them, $20 from there on out.

Or better yet, a 1 time "user license fee" of $195 in which you get half and proceed to collect your $20 a month. That is a great solution for start up software companies hiring I-9 salesmen.

AustinChief 09-16-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6078736)
It will probably take your guys more than an hour to convince someone to put something in their bar.

So far this isn't the case... so far the process is working like this...

Go in possible client's place, try to talk to relevent person, if no go then leave literature, otherwise explain service (takes 10-15 mins max.) and leave with sale (or 2nd meeting which has always lead to sale) or again if not interested yet then leave literature.

So, the process is VERY easy and VERY quick.

Buck 09-16-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6078771)
Or better yet, a 1 time "user license fee" of $195 in which you get half and proceed to collect your $20 a month. That is a great solution for start up software companies hiring I-9 salesmen.

Sure, but your main selling point is that its only $100 a month and its a great service, and then you mention right before you are about to close the $195 license fee and you lose the client. Not always, but that would happen.

Mile High Mania 09-16-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6078773)
So far this isn't the case... so far the process is working like this...

Go in possible client's place, try to talk to relevent person, if no go then leave literature, otherwise explain service (takes 10-15 mins max.) and leave with sale (or 2nd meeting which has always lead to sale) or again if not interested yet then leave literature.

So, the process is VERY easy and VERY quick.

Depending on the type of service, I could probably do this in my spare time... there's a ton of bar activity in Dallas. :p

kstater 09-16-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6078773)
So far this isn't the case... so far the process is working like this...

Go in possible client's place, try to talk to relevent person, if no go then leave literature, otherwise explain service (takes 10-15 mins max.) and leave with sale (or 2nd meeting which has always lead to sale) or again if not interested yet then leave literature.

So, the process is VERY easy and VERY quick.

You want to expand into Arkansas?

Buck 09-16-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6078773)
So far this isn't the case... so far the process is working like this...

Go in possible client's place, try to talk to relevent person, if no go then leave literature, otherwise explain service (takes 10-15 mins max.) and leave with sale (or 2nd meeting which has always lead to sale) or again if not interested yet then leave literature.

So, the process is VERY easy and VERY quick.

Sounds pretty interesting. If you need someone for the SD area let me know, I might like to give it a try.

Mr. Flopnuts 09-16-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6078775)
Sure, but your main selling point is that its only $100 a month and its a great service, and then you mention right before you are about to close the $195 license fee and you lose the client. Not always, but that would happen.

Depends on how valuable the service is. If you're willing to invest $1200 a year into a software program that is greatly going to help your business, $195 up front is nothing. And honestly, when I was doing poker in bars the first thing bar owners asked me was the up front licensing fee. They expected it. It was a lot easier to sell when I told them there wasn't one, but I could've got them on one if I'd pushed it.

Mile High Mania 09-16-2009 01:43 PM

Oh and I know my brother could be a great option for you in Central Arkansas.. he's very well connected to the bar scene. He's a firefighter and always looking for a side gig. Shoot me a PM when you get details and look to expand.

Buck 09-16-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6078791)
Depends on how valuable the service is. If you're willing to invest $1200 a year into a software program that is greatly going to help your business, $195 up front is nothing. And honestly, when I was doing poker in bars the first thing bar owners asked me was the up front licensing fee. They expected it. It was a lot easier to sell when I told them there wasn't one, but I could've got them on one if I'd pushed it.

Better yet, just tell them that they only have to pay the fee when they break the relationship, and then they'll never want to leave...

Just kidding.

Mr. Flopnuts 09-16-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6078805)
Better yet, just tell them that they only have to pay the fee when they break the relationship, and then they'll never want to leave...

Just kidding.

LOL Definitely throw in a 30 day written cancellation notice into the contract.

Mile High Mania 09-16-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6078773)
So far this isn't the case... so far the process is working like this...

Go in possible client's place, try to talk to relevent person, if no go then leave literature, otherwise explain service (takes 10-15 mins max.) and leave with sale (or 2nd meeting which has always lead to sale) or again if not interested yet then leave literature.

So, the process is VERY easy and VERY quick.

Question - are you charging fees for people signing up as reps? Are you charging them for the literature they leave behind?

AustinChief 09-16-2009 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6078771)
Or better yet, a 1 time "user license fee" of $195 in which you get half and proceed to collect your $20 a month. That is a great solution for start up software companies hiring I-9 salesmen.

I think this is more the route i am going... sortof. Currently the structure is this...

1 time SETUP fee of $100 and $100/month
OR if they sign a 6 month deal we waive the setup fee
OR if they sign 1 year we waive the setup and charge $1000 for the year.

Now for a salesperson I could see

...a 50/50 split on the setup fee +20% ($50+20%=$290/year) ~24%

OR on a 6 month deal they get $125 ($125+$125=$250/year) ~21%

OR on a 12 month deal they get $225 ($225/year) 22.5% (although it is only ~19% of the undiscounted rate)


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