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Chiefnj2 09-17-2009 10:02 AM
Last week everyone was saying Flacco was just a game manager and wouldn't beat us throwing the ball.

Mr. Laz 09-17-2009 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6081090)
Last week everyone was saying Flacco was just a game manager and wouldn't beat us throwing the ball.
So your point is that the Faiders running game isn't the biggest threat for us this week?

Chiefnj2 09-17-2009 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6081099)
So you point is that the Faiders running game isn't the biggest threat for us this week?
If you can't pressure the QB then even someone like Russel is going to be able to throw the ball.

CaliforniaChief 09-17-2009 10:09 AM
Ok, serious question here:

Does it make sense to put our best cornerback (Flowers, if available) on Zach Miller? This was something that teams did with Tony when he was here from time to time, forcing us to go to our WR's. I'm just throwing this out there, because it's obvious Miller is Russell's pet target.

Demonpenz 09-17-2009 10:09 AM
I didn't think we looked good at all last week. If it wasn't for a couple mistakes by the ravens we would have been down big. We also didn't cover

Mr. Laz 09-17-2009 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6081111)
If you can't pressure the QB then even someone like Russel is going to be able to throw the ball.
You didn't answer the question.

Buehler445 09-17-2009 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6081122)
Ok, serious question here:

Does it make sense to put our best cornerback (Flowers, if available) on Zach Miller? This was something that teams did with Tony when he was here from time to time, forcing us to go to our WR's. I'm just throwing this out there, because it's obvious Miller is Russell's pet target.
Not really, unless we go into a nickel which would hurt our run D. If you leave just two corners in, that means a LB or safety will have to cover their speedy WR. I don't think we want that.
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Buehler445 09-17-2009 10:15 AM
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I'm not touching it with a 10-foot pole. I'm sure if I say he's wrong, he'll end up being right.
Dude. If all it takes is for you to say it won't happen, get your ass in there and flame him to oblivion RIGHT NOW.
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CaliforniaChief 09-17-2009 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6081139)
Not really, unless we go into a nickel which would hurt our run D. If you leave just two corners in, that means a LB or safety will have to cover their speedy WR. I don't think we want that.
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What you say makes sense. I just wonder if we take Miller away how lost Russell would look...kind of like Thigpen looked after Gonzo was traded. Lost and throwing to the other team. Thanks for the answer.

Mr. Laz 09-17-2009 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6081151)
What you say makes sense. I just wonder if we take Miller away how lost Russell would look...kind of like Thigpen looked after Gonzo was traded. Lost and throwing to the other team. Thanks for the answer.
On passing downs if we bring in another cornerback then maybe we could. That still leaves leggitt on Bey or Murphy though.

CaliforniaChief 09-17-2009 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6081162)
On passing downs if we bring in another cornerback then maybe we could. That still leaves leggitt on Bey or Murphy though.
Based on what I saw, I'd be ok with Leggett on Heyward-Bey. I'd put Carr on Murphy, though. I just don't understand the ins-and outs of defense like most...

Mr. Laz 09-17-2009 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6081177)
Based on what I saw, I'd be ok with Leggett on Heyward-Bey. I'd put Carr on Murphy, though. I just don't understand the ins-and outs of defense like most...
Put leggett on Bey with Page providing deep help for Bey and then put Flowers 1-on-1 with Miller.

CaliforniaChief 09-17-2009 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6081186)
Put leggett on Bey with deep help for Bey and then put Flowers 1-on-1 with Miller.
Right.

Buehler445 09-17-2009 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6081186)
Put leggett on Bey with Page providing deep help for Bey and then put Flowers 1-on-1 with Miller.
Only on throwing downs. I might not even do it if he's in line. If he's split out, I think you should, but if he's inline, you just have your ILB (hopefully Johnson) key on him and make sure you have him covered.

In the SD game, Miller didn't look all that fast, he was just wide the **** open.
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Buehler445 09-17-2009 10:33 AM
Again, the first priority is stopping the run and making them throw on 3rd and long.
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