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the Talking Can 09-24-2009 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6104843)
Are you thinking Brian Waters instead of Will Shields?
wow, i totally transposed waters into the article

L.A. Chieffan 09-24-2009 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6104851)
No, I don't. At the beginning of the year he had some issues but they went away pretty fast.

He may have held the ball against Oakland but with our receivers not getting open....understandable.
HA, then he's going to be holding the ball long all year if thats the case! POW!

Hammock Parties 09-24-2009 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 6104860)
HA, then he's going to be holding the ball long all year if thats the case! POW!
Part of the reason Pioli and Haley wanted him is his legs.

He's gonna have to make something happen this year when no one gets open.

Hydrae 09-24-2009 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6104843)
Are you thinking Brian Waters instead of Will Shields?
DOH!

Red Dawg 09-24-2009 09:07 AM
The HC must have control and be hard nosed. You think Parcells or Bill C let players run the show or their mouths? Hell no! Waters needs to shut the hell up. You don't wanna be here? Can't take it? Then you should retire.

CaliforniaChief 09-24-2009 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6104869)
Part of the reason Pioli and Haley wanted him is his legs.

He's gonna have to make something happen this year when no one gets open.
So.......he's going to pull up his pants and temporarily blind the defense with his white legs, buying himself an extra 2 or 3 seconds?

CoMoChief 09-24-2009 09:17 AM
Will can still play. He needs to come suit up and help this ****ing team. He should be fresh now.

morphius 09-24-2009 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6104851)
No, I don't. At the beginning of the year he had some issues but they went away pretty fast.

He may have held the ball against Oakland but with our receivers not getting open....understandable.
Yeah, I thought it was funny that he criticized Cassel for not getting rid of the ball fast enough, but then later mentions that even when he scrambled he was still having to hit a perfect spot because his WR were still not open.

Dave Lane 09-24-2009 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 6104938)
The HC must have control and be hard nosed. You think Parcells or Bill C let players run the show or their mouths? Hell no! Waters needs to shut the hell up. You don't wanna be here? Can't take it? Then you should retire.
Ummmm Its Shields...

htismaqe 09-24-2009 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 6104938)
The HC must have control and be hard nosed. You think Parcells or Bill C let players run the show or their mouths? Hell no! Waters needs to shut the hell up. You don't wanna be here? Can't take it? Then you should retire.
The head coach must also be JUDICIOUS about who, when, and why he denigrates. The head coach must also be FAIR and be just as willing to dole at praise as he is vitriol.

And that is the only problem I have with this. The insinuation by many, many people is that Haley yells the f-word ALL THE TIME and does NOTHING else.

That's simply not true.

htismaqe 09-24-2009 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 6104965)
Yeah, I thought it was funny that he criticized Cassel for not getting rid of the ball fast enough, but then later mentions that even when he scrambled he was still having to hit a perfect spot because his WR were still not open.
:hmmm:

Chiefnj2 09-24-2009 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 6104965)
Yeah, I thought it was funny that he criticized Cassel for not getting rid of the ball fast enough, but then later mentions that even when he scrambled he was still having to hit a perfect spot because his WR were still not open.
Then he has to throw it away before getting hit.

TrickyNicky 09-24-2009 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6104822)
Will is implying that Cassel was sacked so many times last year because he held the ball too long.

That myth has already been debunked. The Pats had terrible protection problems.
Still though, he averaged 3 sacks a game with NE. He already has two sacks in one game with us.

You saw the way Brady was getting trounced by the Jets? Guess how many sacks. 0.

It is definitely something that needs to be addressed.

htismaqe 09-24-2009 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6104974)
Then he has to throw it away before getting hit.
Yes, he does.

That being said, it's not going to matter what he does. It's not going to be good enough for most fans until this team starts winning. The little things don't matter at this point when there's a 5000-pound elephant in the room.

Hammock Parties 09-24-2009 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TrickyNicky (Post 6104989)
Still though, he averaged 3 sacks a game with NE. He already has two sacks in one game with us.

You saw the way Brady was getting trounced by the Jets? Guess how many sacks. 0.

It is definitely something that needs to be addressed.
Cassel is not Brady.

If he gets sacked 32 times this year, that's perfectly acceptable.

More, then there's a problem, I agree. I don't think our protection is going to be THAT bad.


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