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Bane 10-05-2009 01:57 PM

I knew we were gonna be pretty bad but this team so far hasn't come together like I had hoped.Right now I would have to vote for worse,but being this bad has to mean being good is next...I hope....
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KCUnited 10-05-2009 02:00 PM

Switch out last years Denver game for this years Giants game and those numbers may even out some. But yeah, we are worse no question.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-05-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6141924)
We're appreciably worse but that's to be expected when you're installing new offensive and defensive systems and dumping talent like Tony Gonzalez.

By the way, we are a better team than we were at the beginning of last year when we tried to run the pro set to futility. And I believe we will be a better team by the end of the year than we were at the end of 2008.

We took two steps backwards to get pointed in the right direction. It will pay off.

I almost started this very thread yesterday. OTWP did a better job with stats to back everything up. I found myself pondering whether or not this team was better than it was 1 year ago today. I determined it's not, and mostly for the reasons GoChiefs listed above. We'll see where it goes from here, but so far, not so good.

DeezNutz 10-05-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6141913)
Plus, they have no identity yet.

But what about that "message" that Haley sent in Philly? Didn't that help?

DeezNutz 10-05-2009 02:07 PM

Oh, and OTW, I'm going to be shocked if you didn't just write Whitlock's next column.

Congrats. LMAO.

OnTheWarpath15 10-05-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6141953)
But what about that "message" that Haley sent in Philly? Didn't that help?

Sunday is "opposite day" in the Haley household.

Run 10 of 11 plays when down 3 scores, throw 5 of 6 plays inside the 2 ****ing yard line.

OnTheWarpath15 10-05-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6141956)
Oh, and OTW, I'm going to be shocked if you didn't just write Whitlock's next column.

Congrats. LMAO.

Hey, I've always wanted to be published.

The Franchise 10-05-2009 02:09 PM

That onside kick to open the second half was ****ing reeruned.

KCUnited 10-05-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6141964)
That onside kick to open the second half was ****ing reeruned.

We are going to keep doing it until we get it right.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-05-2009 02:20 PM

It would be interesting to see these numbers during Haley's 3rd year when he has been at the helm.

All these numbers tell me is that Haley has put up near identical numbers with an overhauled team in his first year compared to Herms team which had been 3 years in the making...

SenselessChiefsFan 10-05-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 6141988)
It would be interesting to see these numbers during Haley's 3rd year when he has been at the helm.

All these numbers tell me is that Haley has put up near identical numbers with an overhauled team in his first year compared to Herms team which had been 3 years in the making...

Give me a break. Herm wasn't allowed to tear down the team and start building until his third year.

I am not calling for Haley's head.... but this has been pathetic.

Buehler445 10-05-2009 02:40 PM

Good analysis OTW. Third Down futility had a lot to with replacing Gonzo with shit on a ****ing shingle.

I was telling someone yesterday, that I had no idea why Pioli and Haley didn't go get some different starters.
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Hammock Parties 10-05-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6141929)
Uh, no, we're not.

Did you actually look at the numbers?

And how the **** did we take 2 steps backwards, when all I heard last year is how it can't get any worse?

Look at the games against Carolina and Tennessee last year.

Nothing nearly that bad has happened this year. Philly came close.

And that Oakland game last year was a disaster. This year it was just...disappointing.

Hammock Parties 10-05-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 6141988)
All these numbers tell me is that Haley has put up near identical numbers with an overhauled team in his first year compared to Herms team which had been 3 years in the making...

Exactly. That is a huge difference.

Shag 10-05-2009 02:46 PM

I think some allowance has to be made for a new scheme on both sides of the ball, a late offensive playbook change, and quality of opponents faced. That being said, the team has been disappointing so far, even given very low expectations. The 3rd down efficiency and penalties are the most discouraging stats, IMHO - nearly impossible to win with those numbers.

I think the second half of the season will be the most telling. 8 weeks to get at least somewhat comfortable with the new schemes, and a much more reasonable schedule should give a much better idea of where this team is heading for the future.


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