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Demonpenz 10-07-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6147836)
Did I miss the Greinke won the Cy Young award thread?

Oh jeez ok than silly award aside "the best pitcher in the game."

petegz28 10-07-2009 08:49 AM

Although, to Hillman's credit he did show:

1. He can overuse ptichers with the best of them
2. Keep the best closer in baseball in the Pen when you need him
3. Display inconsistent approaches game after game
4. Bat hitters in positions and against pitchers they have no business facing
5. Yank your 2 best hitter out of the game during the 7th inning in a tie ballgame
6. Have hitters lay down a SAC bunt on the 1at pitch when the previous batter was just walked on 4 wild pitches

All that really makes me feel good about the job he did. Definitely worth my money for season tickets.

Reaper16 10-07-2009 09:10 AM

I'm not ready to give up on Seitzer. He's stuck trying to teach .OBP to players that are monumentally ignorant of plate discipline. Its been said a lot that plate discipline can't be taught, anyway -- that its just as much a tool as speed or power.

Think about the positives of Seitzer's 1st year -- did anyone regress at the plate? Jacobs had a bad year, but he has a bad style of play in the first place. DeJesus started off poorly but soon regained form when he returned to the leadoff spot. Gordon and Aviles were both injured. Teahen, I guess, might have taken a slight step back.

Now, has anyone improved? Butler emerged into a star hitter. Callaspo had nearly as good a year at the plate, and he hit way more HR than anyone ever thought he would. Olivo, while still poor, actually improved over the course of the season. He took walks in Sept. That was amazing. Overall, I think that Seitz did a fine job with the talent he was given.

Now Dave Owen? His ass needed to get got.

Sure-Oz 10-07-2009 10:32 AM

Great managing by destroying meche's arm this year...good thing we dont need him to be trade bait or anything

Fish 10-07-2009 10:44 AM

Always low prices. Always.

DeezNutz 10-07-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6147894)
I'm not ready to give up on Seitzer. He's stuck trying to teach .OBP to players that are monumentally ignorant of plate discipline. Its been said a lot that plate discipline can't be taught, anyway -- that its just as much a tool as speed or power.

Think about the positives of Seitzer's 1st year -- did anyone regress at the plate? Jacobs had a bad year, but he has a bad style of play in the first place. DeJesus started off poorly but soon regained form when he returned to the leadoff spot. Gordon and Aviles were both injured. Teahen, I guess, might have taken a slight step back.

Now, has anyone improved? Butler emerged into a star hitter. Callaspo had nearly as good a year at the plate, and he hit way more HR than anyone ever thought he would. Olivo, while still poor, actually improved over the course of the season. He took walks in Sept. That was amazing. Overall, I think that Seitz did a fine job with the talent he was given.

Now Dave Owen? His ass needed to get got.

Yep.

We still don't know what we have in Seitzer. The fact that Butler emerged this season, whether tied to Seitz or not, earns him another year.

Hillman and the rest must go.

But, of course, the real problem is Dayton Moore.

ChiTown 10-07-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6148673)
Yep.

We still don't know what we have in Seitzer. The fact that Butler emerged this season, whether tied to Seitz or not, earns him another year.

Hillman and the rest must go.

But, of course, the real problem is Dayton Moore.

THIS!

DaWolf 10-07-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6148070)
Great managing by destroying meche's arm this year...good thing we dont need him to be trade bait or anything

Moore admitted he was the one behind that.

Ultimately, it's up to Moore to get these guys talent...

teedubya 10-07-2009 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 6147846)
together we can

Nosotros Podemos Sucko mucho Asso.

DeezNutz 10-07-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6148738)
Moore admitted he was the one behind that.

Ultimately, it's up to Moore to get these guys talent...

And then to make sure that said talent is protected and not abused, assuming that the manager is not doing the former.

tomahawk kid 10-07-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6147853)
Although, to Hillman's credit he did show:

1. He can overuse ptichers with the best of them
2. Keep the best closer in baseball in the Pen when you need him
3. Display inconsistent approaches game after game
4. Bat hitters in positions and against pitchers they have no business facing
5. Yank your 2 best hitter out of the game during the 7th inning in a tie ballgame
6. Have hitters lay down a SAC bunt on the 1at pitch when the previous batter was just walked on 4 wild pitches

All that really makes me feel good about the job he did. Definitely worth my money for season tickets.

They don't call him "Hat Rack" for nothing.......

teedubya 10-07-2009 01:59 PM

Royals Baseball!!!

We plan on suckin' for years!!!

Great Expectations 10-07-2009 02:04 PM

Owen has to be the worst 3rd base coach in baseball. It is as if he hasn't scouted the speed of his own team.

PunkinDrublic 10-07-2009 02:11 PM

It kills me how a small market team like Minnesota is able to play balls out and fight their way into the playoffs while the Royals can't keep meet my lowly expectations of staying out of last place.

Mama Hip Rockets 10-07-2009 10:34 PM

:cuss:


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