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Buck 10-11-2009 04:42 PM
Keep complaining. If it aint broke, dont fix it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-11-2009 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6162643)
Sometimes its chintzy, but the kicker really is completely helpless and exposed. If they allowed him to get hit, it might become a strategy to nail an opposing punter, especially if he was a good punter within your division.

All in all, it's been a rule since the dawn of time, and I really can't see getting rid of it.
I have no problem with roughing the kicker. That's a legit penalty if there is unnecessary roughness. However, I do think that a waft of air that changes the direction of his tampon string should not be a penalty.

Amnorix 10-11-2009 04:43 PM
Brady had all year. No pass rush by Denver without a blitz.

Mile High Mania 10-11-2009 04:44 PM
ST's may have cost Denver twice... on an ability to take advantage of GREAT field position, those are comeback killing mistakes.

Amnorix 10-11-2009 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6162663)
I have no problem with roughing the kicker. That's a legit penalty if there is unnecessary roughness. However, I do think that a waft of air that changes the direction of his tampon string should not be a penalty.
Presumably you're not talking about this particular penalty, because the guy hit his leg spinning him around.

I agree that it does sometimes get called when it's the faintest of brushes. For good or for bad, though, the rule is clear. No touch.

I'm wondering about all these roughing the passer calls. Brady got a pass off earlier today when he was nearly wrapped up by DJ Williams, and I wonder if Williams didn't ease up on how hard he could have hit him because he was worried about the penalty. That isn't how football should be played.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-11-2009 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6162650)
:shrug: Sez you. He was 2008 All Pro player, Pro Bowler, and he has a tremendously strong leg, rarely misses, and has kicked very well in multiple playoff games. I certainly wouldn't take anyone over him.
I would most definitely take Rob Bironas over him.

Buck 10-11-2009 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6162663)
I have no problem with roughing the kicker. That's a legit penalty if there is unnecessary roughness. However, I do think that a waft of air that changes the direction of his tampon string should not be a penalty.
That wasn't roughing the kicker.

It was running into the kicker, which is what happens.

5 yard penalty, but since it was 4th and 4 that made it a first down.

Mile High Mania 10-11-2009 04:46 PM
So far... offensively and defensively, I think Denver has answered some of their critics. The offense hasn't put up a lot of points and that stinks, but they've been productive.

Let's see how they close it out...

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-11-2009 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6162671)
Presumably you're not talking about this particular penalty, because the guy hit his leg spinning him around.

I agree that it does sometimes get called when it's the faintest of brushes. For good or for bad, though, the rule is clear. No touch.

I'm wondering about all these roughing the passer calls. Brady got a pass off earlier today when he was nearly wrapped up by DJ Williams, and I wonder if Williams didn't ease up on how hard he could have hit him because he was worried about the penalty. That isn't how football should be played.
He barely ****ing touched the guy. It's not like he took two steps and dropped him helmet into his sternum.

I know it helped your team, and I hate Denver, but that's a ****ing bullshit rule.

Mile High Mania 10-11-2009 04:47 PM
Ok... nice job defense, time for the THIRD punt attempt.

Amnorix 10-11-2009 04:47 PM
Third third down stop for Denver. Gotta give their defense credit.

But now we're punting from teh 50 instead of our own ten, so the penalties definitely hurt them.

Mile High Mania 10-11-2009 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6162677)
He barely ****ing touched the guy. It's not like he took two steps and dropped him helmet into his sternum.

I know it helped your team, and I hate Denver, but that's a ****ing bullshit rule.
Kickers also do a great job of selling at times like that too... and theirs did a fine job.

Mile High Mania 10-11-2009 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6162679)
Third third down stop for Denver. Gotta give their defense credit.

But now we're punting from teh 50 instead of our own ten, so the penalties definitely hurt them.
99 yards... time for my UPS Broncos to Deliver.

Amnorix 10-11-2009 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6162674)
That wasn't roughing the kicker.

It was running into the kicker, which is what happens.

5 yard penalty, but since it was 4th and 4 that made it a first down.
Right.

Amnorix 10-11-2009 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6162685)
99 yards... time for my UPS Broncos to Deliver.
Well, their one TD drive today was what? 92 yards. :shake:


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