it starts and stops with the o-line. plain and simple. you cant even cover fundamental football with a crap o-line.

His pass rush is about as "yawn" as Hali's.

He's just a guy. Anyone could have caught that TD.

Great post. Several of us were echoing all of your sentiments, save for the open receivers, as it was hard to tell from the broadcast.

If you go back to about 3:30 yesterday, there was a lynch mob forming for Leggett, when about 3 of us had to point out, that while he missed the tackle, the dumb mother****er at safety has to take the correct angle to put himself in a position to clean up.

Mike Brown should be seeing Ray Farmer as we speak. If not, "The Right 53" is bullshit.

On a more positive note, imagine how bad our defense would be without Vrabel and his leadership...

Right? Right.

Oh, and despite all the crowing about our run D: If Tashard Choice was given 22-25 carries yesterday, he probably would have had 180 yards. They really helped us by playing Barber.

/Simplex3

Cassell did hold the ball too long and I think someone needs to check his peripheral vision, there were times when he started to scramble and absolutely noone was about to touch him. That being said, he did manage to make something out of nothing a few times, and managed to eek out that last regular time drive to tie it up. I think he had a decent game, considering the fact, that of the first quarter he got sacked, how many times? Our O line needs help, something needs to happen, we can't make the run game work, which means we cant' make the passing game work, and it's because of those guys not doing their jobs.

And yes, I was absolutely DISGUSTED at how many Cowboys fans there were. And even MORE disgusted, with 2 minutes left in the game, and seeing Chiefs fans actually start leaving. There is NO way we can call ourselves the best fans in the NFL with that kind of bullshit.

And not that it matters, but I actually saw some improvement yesterday, and on the plus side, we were ahead most of the game. So that was something new!

And Mecca, the most dire, negative poster in the world, was cautioning people to give Leggett more time to develop; he's still a pup.

This, and some of us have been saying it all year.

Yes, there is pressure sometimes.

But very honestly, the OL has given him more time that people here are giving credit for, only to see Cassel get a case of happy feet and panic.

He's falling victim to as much "phantom" pressure as he is real pressure.

He's also not very good at recognizing the blitz.

Just saw the play where Brooking blitzed, and Cassel went into a shell instead of getting the ball to Pope, who had beat the LB.

The Royals drafted a guy who, literally, couldn't see, Hosmer, so, while funny, your statement about Cassel's vision isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

That would be vintage Chiefs. LMAO

You keep patting yourself on the back about this. If I were you, I would take any win I could get too. The fact of the matter is, no one is saying that Brown played well, or did his job on those plays. They're just pointing out that Legget is as bad as Brown is, and neither should be on an NFL roster.

PS: Pollard takes the same angle, or worse, and is just as slow.

Cassel looks better in the no-huddle/shotgun offense (this was true with the Patriots lsat year). But his Rob Johnson-esque tendancies in holding onto the ball too long and taking sacks is alarming. The Chiefs can go out and spend all the high draft picks and $$$ on free agents their heart desires on rebuilding the offensive line and it will be wasted if Cassel plays like Rob Johnson.

Not necessarily. There are usually more than one WR/TE/RB on one side of the field at a time. Just because he's looking at one side of the field doesn't mean he's locking onto one WR.


As far as him holding the ball too long, yes he does. But he's also the reason we were in OT after the game-tying drive. He made some great plays that made me think that he's gunna be a great QB when we get a legit team around him.

I'm sorry...this whole explanation is part of the problem. Chiefs fans were supposed to be different. I was 100% for shoving it up ownership's ass when Herm effing Edwards and Carl Peterson needed to be shown the door...but now that they're finally gone, there's no excuse. I don't care if we lose every game. Get your asses back into the stadium seat and bring the force of your fandom's will on the other team! :cuss: It does have an affect. Hell, that was at least part of Marty's success.

If the above explanation is really what this fan-base has come to, then you might as well change the team's name to the Dallas Texans and wear those retro-helmets from now on...because you're NO effing different than Cowboy fans. You're fair-weather. At least get out to the damn stadium, drink a few beers and cause 20 false starts for the other team. The twelfth man effect is real. Now go out and do your part if you're season ticket holder or local resident. Damn, this frustrates me.