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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-12-2009 10:30 PM

This guy could have easily given up football, but he stuck with it and became an elite college player. His routes are so nice to watch. Don't think he's a typical Mack Brown prospect and Im a huge UT hater. Draft experts... how does he compare to Steve Smith from the NYG? His timed speed, size and injury history could allow him to slip a bit

Mecca 10-12-2009 10:31 PM

Steve Smith comes from USC and a pro style offense, Shipley comes from the gimmick college spread.

I don't see Shipley as an NFL player other than a fringe backup.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-12-2009 10:33 PM

ok...Harvin came from a gimmick offense. Im talking prospect here... not production

Sure-Oz 10-12-2009 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6167554)
His thing says "Dwayne Bowe clone" so he can put on some weight.

*fist pump* /Hioli

RustShack 10-12-2009 10:37 PM

Hes no Lance Long.

Dante84 10-12-2009 10:42 PM

This is what I wanted feedback, and a healthy discussion. I agree; TX has produced a ton of busts. For whatever reason, TX guys often don't live up to their hype. And yes, it is a spread offense.

But what you can't take out of the picture for a certain player is intangibles that would translate directly to the NFL. My argument for Shipley is that he is fast as shit; he runs super sharp routes; he is a returner; he blocks down field; and he has sure-enough hands.

I'm not saying he is a Calvin Johnson. I am saying that I think he could be a very productive WR in the NFL; especially in a Haley offense. I am wondering what you all think he is worth and what you think he is capable of.

No, I don't think Briscoe is a solid NFL WR prospect, but I do think he will go in the late first to mid second round in the upcoming draft.

Mecca 10-12-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6167578)
This is what I wanted feedback, and a healthy discussion. I agree; TX has produced a ton of busts. For whatever reason, TX guys often don't live up to their hype. And yes, it is a spread offense.

But what you can't take out of the picture for a certain player is intangibles that would translate directly to the NFL. My argument for Shipley is that he is fast as shit; he runs super sharp routes; he is a returner; he blocks down field; and he has sure-enough hands.

I'm not saying he is a Calvin Johnson. I am saying that I think he could be a very productive WR in the NFL; especially in a Haley offense. I am wondering what you all think he is worth and what you think he is capable of.

No, I don't think Briscoe is a solid NFL WR prospect, but I do think he will go in the late first to mid second round in the upcoming draft.

Dezmon Briscoe is not going in the 1st round of the draft. If he runs faster than a 4.7 I'd be stunned.

And Shipley is not remotely as gifted as Harvin, Harvin was the #1 player in the country his recruiting year, he got drafted high for pure physical gifts.

Here look at this...

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2010WR.php

Look how low these guys are.

Coogs 10-12-2009 10:46 PM

Shipley will be 24 in December. Don't know if that is relevant or not, but seems kind of old for a rookie come next season.

Mecca 10-12-2009 10:47 PM

24. Dezmon Briscoe*, Kansas
Height: 6-3. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.

21. Jordan Shipley, Texas
Height: 6-0. Weight: 195.
Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.

Discussing these guys near the 1st or 2nd round is not even funny.

tyler360 10-12-2009 10:52 PM

I guess our own fine texas product has not swayed any one from realizing that texas players bust more often then not. Hopefully Jamaal Charles will break that

Mecca 10-12-2009 10:53 PM

This isn't that great of a WR year but why on earth would we discuss the guys who are bums?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-12-2009 11:07 PM

how surprising.... Mecca backing up his claim with a link to a draft site.

Shipley was fast as hell (timed) in HS and still may be, though I wouldn't be so confident. Im no expert but his routes look tremendous. He carried McGee in HS who was a bum a A&M and he has helped Colt McCoy look like a Heisman candidate.

Mecca 10-12-2009 11:08 PM

The system is carrying McCoy.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-12-2009 11:10 PM

I said help... he carried mcgee

TrickyNicky 10-12-2009 11:10 PM

I would rather we take Jacoby Ford than Shipley, and hopefully not in the first 4 rounds.


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