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OnTheWarpath15 10-14-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6172790)
The best way to get value is to chase trends. Like all those teams that had success <del>running Air Coryell after the Rams, or the Tampa 2, or the WCO...</del>

How funny is it that Pioli leaves, and then Belichick switches back to a 4-3?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-14-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6172791)
How funny is it that Pioli leaves, and then Belichick switches back to a 4-3?

You'd think the dumb mother****er would understand

1) Supply and Demand
2) Players trump schemes

Hell, the only person who could ever neutralize Derrick Thomas for a long stretch was Gunther Cunningham.

The last time I checked Scott Pioli wasn't Bud Wilkinson. He didn't invent the ****ing 3-4, so I don't know why he thinks we need to run it at all costs. Of course, just as many of us had predicted, the guy who we should have built our defense around is now flashing while playing out of position in the wrong defense.

tyler360 10-14-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6172764)
Only teams that run the 3-4 can win.

I did not know that lol. Maybe by the time we get a good 3-4 defense the trend will switch back to a 4-3. That is just the like the Chiefs to always be chasing trends

bowener 10-14-2009 09:48 PM

All of this just further strengthens my resolve that the Chiefs should pick up Sands and snatch Montgomery from the Skins and run the 5-2... we can start our own retrotard-trend.

**** hoodie right in the butt!

ChiefsCountry 10-14-2009 09:50 PM

3-4 was also our defense during the Glory Years of the 80's.

tyler360 10-14-2009 09:55 PM

I am really only pissed that We are wasting Glenn Dorsey like we are. I was so happy we drafted him and now he is still managing to be a decent player in the wrong scheme. It definetly speaks to his talent. I just wish "Holy Pioli" would drop his 3-4 obsession and run a 4-3. Jackson would make a great end on the left side then we could have Carlos Dunlap in the draft and have a super amazing d-line for quite a long time

RustShack 10-14-2009 09:59 PM

Dunlap-Dorsey-Jackson-Hali.. not bad. Dunlap-Dorsey-Tank-Jackson.. I'm not sure which is better.

chiefzilla1501 10-14-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6172799)
You'd think the dumb mother****er would understand

1) Supply and Demand
2) Players trump schemes

Hell, the only person who could ever neutralize Derrick Thomas for a long stretch was Gunther Cunningham.

The last time I checked Scott Pioli wasn't Bud Wilkinson. He didn't invent the ****ing 3-4, so I don't know why he thinks we need to run it at all costs. Of course, just as many of us had predicted, the guy who we should have built our defense around is now flashing while playing out of position in the wrong defense.

I'm not a major fan of the switch, but I think he deserves a little time. It's still a very good defense and Pioli does have a history of building it over and over again. Even the defense last year, as unglamorous as it was, actually did very well for NE. Honestly, I don't think this defense is nearly as far away as people suggest. You bring in one playmaking safety and a solid nose tackle, and I think this could be at least a solid defense.

Now, in terms of offense, Pioli laid a big fat goose egg.

chiefzilla1501 10-14-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler360 (Post 6172837)
I am really only pissed that We are wasting Glenn Dorsey like we are. I was so happy we drafted him and now he is still managing to be a decent player in the wrong scheme. It definetly speaks to his talent. I just wish "Holy Pioli" would drop his 3-4 obsession and run a 4-3. Jackson would make a great end on the left side then we could have Carlos Dunlap in the draft and have a super amazing d-line for quite a long time

Jackson wasn't built for a 4-3, unless he's playing DT. His best position by far is as a 5-technique in a 3-4.

tyler360 10-14-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6172865)
I'm not a major fan of the switch, but I think he deserves a little time. It's still a very good defense and Pioli does have a history of building it over and over again. Even the defense last year, as unglamorous as it was, actually did very well for NE. Honestly, I don't think this defense is nearly as far away as people suggest. You bring in one playmaking safety and a solid nose tackle, and I think this could be at least a solid defense.

Now, in terms of offense, Pioli laid a big fat goose egg.

I think it needs tons more. I really think we need 4 new linebackers beacause i dont like any of the ones we have now

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-14-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6172852)
Dunlap-Dorsey-Jackson-Hali.. not bad. Dunlap-Dorsey-Tank-Jackson.. I'm not sure which is better.

Or

Dunlap-Dorsey-Tank-Hali

DJ--------Mauluga--------Williams

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-14-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6172870)
Jackson wasn't built for a 4-3, unless he's playing DT. His best position by far is as a 5-technique in a 3-4.

He's a fine left end in a 4-3. Still a stupid ****ing pick that high...

chiefzilla1501 10-14-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler360 (Post 6172873)
I think it needs tons more. I really think we need 4 new linebackers beacause i dont like any of the ones we have now

In a 3-4, if you have a solid defensive line, you don't need studs at LB. That's why the Chargers aren't trying to protect Merriman, the Steelers didn't protect Porter, and the Ravens were half-ass about protecting Suggs and Scott. In watching Hali play, he's not that bad. He just needs more consistent play from his D-line to open up more opportunities for him.

RustShack 10-14-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6172879)
Or

Dunlap-Dorsey-Tank-Hali

DJ--------Mauluga--------Williams

Dunlap, Dorsey, Tank, Hali
DJ Rey CURRY!!!!

ROFL

Saccopoo 10-14-2009 10:07 PM

They aren't taking Boo Robinson in the draft Direckshun, so you can stop with the Mark Sanchez/Tyler Thigpen analogies.


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