I have said the Chiefs will pick closer to 10th.... with as bad as many teams are this year.... I think that is still likely.

Chiefs should win against the Browns. And, have a good chance against Denver and the Bills.

heres how I see it
Cle 2-14
Oak 2-14
Det 3-13
Sea 3-13
Stl 3-13
KC 4-12
TB 4-12
Buff 4-12
WAs 4-12

That puts us somewhere between #6-#9
prime Berry or Tradedown territory

1. Cleveland
2. Detroit
3. Oakland
4. Tampa Bay
5. St. Louis
6. Kansas City

Graph 1 is the best estimate of where we will draft as of right now. It makes no assumptions about which games we might win or lose from here on out. Graph 2 is the distribution of where we would draft if we beat Cleveland, but lost all the rest of our games (3-13). Graph 3 is the distribution of where we would draft if we beat both Cleveland and Buffalo, but lost all of our remaining games (4-12). Very unlikely we'll be drafting later than 9th.

So if we win only one more game, we are still probably drafting in the top 5. If we win 2 more games, we'll probably draft in the 4 to 8 range. If we lose the rest of our games we'll most likely be in the top 2 picks. To get out of the top 10, we need 3 more victories.

The one nice thing about drafting early is not necessarily the first round. It is where it puts you in all subsequent rounds also.

Exactly. If we go 4-12, and pick first in the first round among those at 4-12, we slide to the back of the line for round 2.

I want an early round 2 pick, as its basically a late first. There are usually 5-7 guys who are projected first rounders that slip, and I want the guy/s that best fit us out of them. Obviously.

Again, I can't seem to get of Jordan Shipley's nuts. Anyone object to taking him with our first second round pick if he's there?

-1. Safety (Teric Bays or Eaylor Merry)
-2a. Shipley? (WR)
-2b. OLine
-3a. NT
-3b. (do we have 2 thirds? I know it's either two thirds or two fourths. if so): Oline
4-7 Oline, a power runningback, Linebacker.

eh?

Which is why you clicked on the link right? :thumb:

right now our gonzo pick is sitting at #56


hopefully that will bump up a bit and we get 3 picks in the first 50

Raises hand.

Seconds that!

Fair and Fair - but please explain why!

Why i like him with that pick:
1. Solid hands.
2. Fast as ****.
3. Great route runner.
4. Potential kick returner.
5. Solid slot WR, and eventual number 2 behind DBowe.

So, is it that you think its too early for him to go? If so, when - if - we select him, where would you prefer it be? Or is it solely based on the fact that he's from UT and they don't transfer well to the NFL? What if he performs well in the combine also? Who would you prefer instead at WR- in the range that he is projected? That is to say, Dez will be gone long before we would consider Ship.

Just curious. And thanks.

I can not speak for Milkman, but for me, this draft should be all about defense early as it is a strong defensive draft. Then O-line like a big dog later. Add the receiver next year when there could be some very good WR's available.

I'm not against taking Mardy Gilyard or Golden Tate (if he comes out) in rounds 2-3.

If Bowe, Chambers, and Long continue to progress as the season goes forth, WR may not be a big need anymore. Same with Charles at RB. Defense and O-line should be high priority IMHO.