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Chiefnj2 11-24-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6290048)

I tell you what I've seen in person and thats in baseball. But, its not a black or white thing. It's a middle class, poor thing. Playing little league baseball in the summer at one of the top levels costs $7,000 - $10,000 a summer per team. If your family doesn't have the money, or find a team with a sponsor, your kid plays recreational baseball.

I agree with BRC.

I think money has a large role in today's youth sports. Lots of parents will spend thousands a year on one-on-one trainers and camps and clinics. Child X has his own personal trainer for 2 years and Y doesn't. Even if Y has a good arm, child X has more experience and reps even in the 4th and 5th grade and will get the nod. It's kind of sad.

CoMoChief 11-24-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 6290037)
I'd be inclined to say that, right now anyway, more white guys fit the bill than black guys. But I don't think it has anything to do with race. Maybe it's a preference from when they were kids. The Black guys wanted to be running backs and recievers, and the white guys wanted to be quarterbacks...

...hell I don't know. But it's obvious that race can't play a role on the talent side per se. Warren Moon was a darn good QB, for instance.

Here's the bigger question...

...when's the last time you EVER saw a black kicker? Roby? I think that's the only one in the history of the world...

...'sup with THAT??

There are a lot of black soccer players though that could IMO easily be transformed into kickers.

DMAC 11-24-2009 08:36 AM

Why aren't there any Asian quarterbacks?

NewChief 11-24-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6290105)
I agree with BRC.

I think money has a large role in today's youth sports. Lots of parents will spend thousands a year on one-on-one trainers and camps and clinics. Child X has his own personal trainer for 2 years and Y doesn't. Even if Y has a good arm, child X has more experience and reps even in the 4th and 5th grade and will get the nod. It's kind of sad.

Also, around here at least, high schools are going to more and more complex spread type offenses. QBs are often groomed from about 7th grade in a system to get them ready for high school. The kid who gets the summer camps (around here, often run by the high school) is going to have an advantage on understanding and running the offense over kids who don't.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-24-2009 08:46 AM

Well, clearly, white people are smarter.

I would love to leave it at that, but I am afraid it would be taken seriously.

I think we would all agree that black people are typically more athletic than the majority of white people. As such, the ones who play QB are often asked to run more of an option oriented attack, and at the very least, are encouraged to run when all else fails.

White QB's are encouraged to stand in the pocket and look downfield because they won't get very far running the ball.

But, when the NFL drafts a QB, they look for a guy who will stand tall in the pocket and deliver the ball downfield.

I also think that it starts young in pee wee football.... and coaches on that level have very little clue of what they are doing.... so they emulate the NFL teams, or the college teams.... and they try to do what they do. If they have a tall white kid that can throw the ball pretty good.... they feel like they have a QB.

It is an interesting discussion, but it is good to see more and more black QB's in the NFL.

loochy 11-24-2009 08:47 AM

I don't know. Why don't you ask Rush Limbaugh?

SenselessChiefsFan 11-24-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 6290124)
Why aren't there any Asian quarterbacks?

Honestly... height, more than anything.

loochy 11-24-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 6290124)
Why aren't there any Asian quarterbacks?

Good question - I bet they could instantly calculate the proper trajectory and speed of a fade to the back corner of the end zone.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-24-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6290099)
Right!!!!Everyone knows you can't put spinners on ice skates.
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Sure you can, it's called figure skating.

Bwana 11-24-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector (Post 6290057)
You'll probably need to wait until Mic comes here to explain it.

That's what I'm going to do.

Heh, when that happens, expect this thread to hit 200 plus.

CoMoChief 11-24-2009 08:57 AM

Or have you seen any Black swimmers?

To be honest in my life and what I've seen, I've never met a black person who can swim well. I used to have an in-ground pool in my backyard at my parent's house growing up and I would have our HS basketball team come over and party. None of the black guys would leave the shallow end. ROFL

tooge 11-24-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 6290151)
Good question - I bet they could instantly calculate the proper trajectory and speed of a fade to the back corner of the end zone.

And, according to Reggie White, they could take off their helmet, and rework the helmet speaker into a rocket football launcher.

InChiefsHeaven 11-24-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6290072)
Why?


I believe a more compelling thought was the fact that the NFL is largely African American and the "most important" player on most NFL teams is white.

I have to admit that the kicker thing through me off... Where are all the black kickers?

Maybe it's just not a position of interest. It's not flashy, although it's very important. I find it hard to believe that leg strength and accuracy are something that only white people have, so I'd guess it's just not a "sexy" thing to do. If you have athletic ability, then why be a kicker?

There are a lot of black soccer players, so it does seem weird that there are not more black kickers in any level of football. I've never seen one in PeeWee, High School or College, much less the pros.

InChiefsHeaven 11-24-2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6290159)
Or have you seen any Black swimmers?

To be honest in my life and what I've seen, I've never met a black person who can swim well. I used to have an in-ground pool in my backyard at my parent's house growing up and I would have our HS basketball team come over and party. None of the black guys would leave the shallow end. ROFL

That's a good point too. It seems there are just certain sports that black people for whatever reason seem to stay away from.

Demonpenz 11-24-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 6290124)
Why aren't there any Asian quarterbacks?

timmy chang!


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