Dude......Pioli was hired on January 13, 2009.

He had free agency to get some players that would help this team. He chose not to.

So now Pioli didn't have the free agency period to acquire players?

Oh, wait. He did. And he used it to sign Goff, Engram, etc.

I already see your other bullshit excuse coming, so I'll just address it now:

"Who would want to sign with a shitty team?"

Let's ask Jason Brown, who signed with the Rams. We sure could have used a young, aspiring center.

Or TJ Houshmanzadeh, who signed with the Seahawks. We didn't need a WR, right?

Should I keep going?

Let's take a look at some of the free agents that Pioli chose not to sign....that could have helped this team.

Chris Canty - Could have played 3-4 DE for us....for less money than Tyson Jackson. Thus freeing up our 1st round pick to go BPA.

Jason Brown - Could have filled the whole at OC that we had.

Sean Jones - Easily could have competed for a safety position in our defense.

Panties in a bunch much? Calm down, I just disagree with you, I am not callin' yer mama names! Was there spittle flying from your lips while you typed that?

Okay, I agree, Pioli missed some great opportunities. Opportunities that signed with organizations that had experienced front offices that had all the policies and proceedures down pat. They didn't sign with a team that had a fresman GM and head coach that didn't have a firm grasp of policies and proceedures.

I am just saying....give them their freshman mistakes.

We could have hired a GM and Head Coach that had been fired else where, but the Chiefs elected to hire a non experienced HC and GM, gambling that they had what it takes. I still figure that is a better gamble than hiring a HC and GM that wasn't good enough elsewhere.


Nah, you are right, you know that you are right, and nothing will change your mind. So I won't try, it would be a waste of both of our time. Besides that, I worry about your blood pressure.

Jackson may have been the BPA on their board. We have no way of knowing.

I think Brown would have been a great pickup.

I'll say what I've said probably 10,000 times in the last 9 years on this board, you can be disappointed with this year, I'm not sure who wouldn't be, but from within that red haze don't lose sight of the fact that this isn't the only year they have. It was always a multiple-year proposition, and positive or negative, what happened in 2009, offseason or inseason, isn't any kind of indictment on the future. Things may get better. Or they may not. But they do have time and many more opportunities left to fix the franchise.

I agree, Keg, and good post.

However, just because we all knew this was a multiple year proposition does not make it acceptable to completely waste one of those years.

We are literally no better off than we were this time last year.

You could argue that the team is worse.

So basically, we're starting over, yet again.

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Dude come on, you should have let the thread get to 4-5 pages before you ended it.

I agree that the talent was misjudged. However, I also give Pioli a pass, for now, on that one. Remember, Pioli got this gig late in the game. By the time due diligence was completed regarding coaching availability and veteran free agents, most of the good pickins were gone. To think that he could evaluate the talent, most of whom he had never met, evaluate the coaches, manage marketing of a failed franchise, and concentrate on the draft all in 2 months is an impossible thing to ask. By the time he had a chance to see what he had, it was 6 weeks before the season, and he probably thought "holy crap" to himself. I want to see what direction this team heads with regards to offnsive and defensive coordinators, free agent pickups, and the draft before I get too disappointed in the job he has done. Imagine signing on as the GM of this team when he did. What the heck would any of us done differently? We dont know all the circumstances either. Maybe he wanted Crennel but Crennel wasn't ready. Maybe Chan Gaily wasn't exactly truthful in his adaptability as the OC. We simply dont know. I hope he is the right guy for the job, but there is simply no way we can tell until midway through next season. As much as that sucks, it is what it is.

You know how good they are at talent evaluation?

Larry Johnson was run out on the field over Charles repeatedly, think about that.

cant argue there. But elsewhere, what talent were they evaluating? By the time they got to see what they had, and realize it wasn't just due to poor conditioning, poor commitment, and poor coaching, there wasn't anthing better out there. I think the proof of that is the sheer numbers of players they kept bringing in at offensive line and receiver positions.

Why is Mike Brown playing over Morgan? Even where it seems they at least have another option they refuse to even try it.

These guys look like boobs.

C'mon, man.

Hell, Pioli's old team PLAYED the Chiefs. They knew exactly what they had, and what they didn't have. Plus you have pro personnel scouts who scout every NFL team.

Christ, even the FANS knew this roster was talent depleted, and where the holes were.

He wasn't flying blind, here.

He just whiffed. Simple as that.

Zactly!

I honestly would like to know what his offseason plan was, right now it doesn't look like there was one.

Other than "hey those past guys were so bad we'll make these players better just cause"

I like boobs........