Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6354982)

Just to be another one to disagree, and to be a pain in the ass...
If the 08 Chiefs played the 09 Chiefs ...it would come down to coaching. As much as this hurts...Herm wins over Todd. Herm had respect of his players...Todd not so much, and one game Herm is the kind of coach that may make that happen. Herm kept his teams close...Todd's team gives up.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6355011)

Todd's team doesn't give up. even when they are getting blown out they still play hard. obviously, when you get blown out and are at the bottom of the league, players heads will hang, which is what we're seeing. But they aren't giving up.

Herm's 08 team couldn't finish they were awful under Herm's direction, and that was WITH TONY G. Chan Gaily saved that team. Why is it that no one can remember what that 08 team looked like before Chan installed his Pistol offense and entertained us for the rest of the season.

Of the 09 team played the 08 team, the 09 team would win. The Difference? The ability to rush the passer. Let's not forget that we are on pace to double our sack total from last year. I know that isn't saying much, but it's obvious the pass rush has improved. The O-Line play this year is still better then the O-Line play of last year.

This year's team is better overall than last years. But this year's passing game is much worse. Chalk that up to the loss of TG, merry-go-round at WR, and trying to run a pro style O with a spread style QB.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6355008)

Yet we have seen time and time again where coaching over the last 3 years really hurt time team... Failing with the use of timeouts, poor clock management, wtf play calls, stupid talent evaluation, playing less talented veteran players over younger better players......

Herm had the respect, because he didnt hold anyone accountable. Well expect the place kicker he drafted then cut after the first game...

There are faults on both sides. Herm should of known better, Haley is learning, not sure he is learning from his fails, but he has no where to go but up...

Just my .02$

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6354926)

Never experienced?

Do you really think that this abortion of a football team and coaching staff is better than last year's team and coaching?

Really?

Last year's team would have kicked the living shit out of this year's team.

Hands down.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6354907)

No coach with the lack of talent that this team has is going anywhere in his 1st year. Sorry, but that's the fact.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6355031)

Haley is better than Herm. He just needs to polish his act and get an OC and a QB coach. Other than that I like his attitude and the way he wants the team to play. And he needs to replace Clancy........REALLY needs to do that.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6355031)

Haley is better than Herm. He just needs to polish his act and get an OC and a QB coach. Other than that I like his attitude and the way he wants the team to play. And he needs to replace Clancy........REALLY needs to do that.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6355059)

So is the lack of talent the reason he makes really stupid game management decisions all the time?

Originally Posted by Boyceofsummer (Post 6354879)

and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6355143)

So how much longer are you guys willing to give Haley?


What if next years team starts off 0-4, 0-5 or 0-6??

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6355143)

So how much longer are you guys willing to give Haley?


What if next years team starts off 0-4, 0-5 or 0-6??