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HC_Chief 12-30-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6391444)
You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

I wish I could pos rep you twice for this post. :thumb:

POND_OF_RED 12-30-2009 10:44 AM

I'd like to see them go after a proven NT in FA and pick up Berry in the draft. If they did it the other way around I wouldn't be too upset as long as both positions are filled with actual NFL playmakers by September.

Mr. Laz 12-30-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by swayy07 (Post 6391506)
right but wouldnt you want a star back there? i mean look at what TP and Ed reed do for their D's its retarted how much better each of those teams are when they are on the field.

of course i want a star everywhere ... but the question is how do you get the best total talent.

it's much easier to get a decent safety in FA than a DT.


all depends on how you rate Suh vs Berry though :shrug:

Mr. Laz 12-30-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 6391518)
I'd like to see them go after a proven NT in FA and pick up Berry in the draft. If they did it the other way around I wouldn't be too upset as long as both positions are filled with actual NFL playmakers by September.

truth

mlyonsd 12-30-2009 10:46 AM

First, Suh won't fall to us but if by some miracle Detroit picks another WR you take him at 3rd and do the happy dance.

Plus, more ticket sales to the NE fans.

Mr. Laz 12-30-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6391525)
First, Suh won't fall to us but if by some miracle Detroit picks another WR you take him at 3rd and do the happy dance.

Plus, more ticket sales to the NE fans.

do we really want more cornholers at arrowhead???





:fire:

mylittlepony 12-30-2009 10:53 AM

Berry no contest. He is exactly the type of player Kansas City needs. If opponents can get some fear of Jesus Berry in the backfield the pressure will get that extra tick that will make em arrive on time instead of just after the QB let go.

Berry would upgrade the corners, safties and linebackers.

Suh would probably help the d line and inside linebackers but that's about it. He is not the type of player to change the way an opposing team plays you, Berry is.

OnTheWarpath15 12-30-2009 10:56 AM

You guys really want to spend another Top 5 draft pick on a 5-technique?

Doing this means:

Our last 3 R1 picks, all of whom were top 5, play the same position.

We'd have over $100M wrapped up in the three of them.

Who becomes the rotational guy? Dorsey or Jackson? What happens to McGee? Or did we waste a R3 on him?

Micjones 12-30-2009 10:58 AM

That'd be one hell of a decision to make.
It'd be hard to pass on a prospect like Suh with a 3-4 scheme.
At the same time though... You might be able to trade down 2 spots and pick up an extra (high) #2 and STILL get Berry.

Bane 12-30-2009 11:01 AM

If Berry is there when we pick,and they don't take him,they should all pack up and go to Walmart for a job.

Ralphy Boy 12-30-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6391440)
I'd like to get a DC in place, firmly, before we even make any draft decisions. If it's Crennel, so be it. I don't want to handcuff the DC without getting his solid input, assuming its worth a damn.

This seems like a complete waste of a statement. Its not as if you are Haley and are going to offend Romeo.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6391444)
You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

This is all that needs to be said. You don't pass up Suh's talent, even for Berry. Suh is everything. He is one bad mofo. I heard he was created in a lab by crossing the DNA of Darth Vader, Chuck Norris, Rocky Balboa and Jesus Christ. I could go on but the point is: if you have a chance at him you DO NOT f@ck that up.

Look at Detroit, they drafted an ass load of WR's in the 1st round: Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, before they finally landed on CJ. Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on. You can't move on if you're still trying to convince yourself that (____ player X) wasn't a mistake and even if they weren't a mistake anyway, you still don't pass up on the best player in the draft if they fall to you.

The Bad Guy 12-30-2009 11:07 AM

I'd take Eric Berry. You can not invest another 30 million on this defensive line.

That would be Matt Millen dumb.

Deberg_1990 12-30-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6391563)
Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on.


In alot of ways, the Chiefs have never moved on from Blackledge....

Coogs 12-30-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6391578)
In alot of ways, the Chiefs have never moved on from Blackledge....

Word!

swayy07 12-30-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6391563)

Look at Detroit, they drafted an ass load of WR's in the 1st round: Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, before they finally landed on CJ. Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on. You can't move on if you're still trying to convince yourself that (____ player X) wasn't a mistake and even if they weren't a mistake anyway, you still don't pass up on the best player in the draft if they fall to you.


ok...but its still detroit how many games have they won in the past 5 years? i wouldnt base your argument on drafting another DL on something detroit has done IMO


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