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OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6499967)
One thing you have not considered, mr. Saccogoo, is how much does cassel contribute to the sack issue, either through a poor cadence or holding on to the ball too long. Check how many times he was sacked in new england last year behind their line. As I recall, it was a staggering figure.

Further, you assume albert can successfully transition to the right side - which is a substantial risk. Further still, you want to draft in the top 5 against the strengths of this draft class. Okung is a value-reach at best at 5.

Those are my arguments.
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You're wasting your time. He doesn't consider anything. He's already decided that Albert is trash because he has a poor 8 games in two years.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6499987)
Funny how you clipped the Walter excerpt, when they said that Albert played almost flawlessly the second half of the year.

Branden Albert improved over the season and was pretty flawless in the final month. But I'm not convinced that he's a franchise left tackle. There's a chance that he could be, but I don't think anyone can seriously say that he's a lock to be one.

Neg rep for intellectual dishonesty.

Additionally, Walter most likely didn't watch the majority of Chiefs games and didn't know that Albert was

A) Struggling with weight
B) Learning new technique.

Funny how once he got both those down, his play improved. But let's give up on him after two years.
Nice find.

DeezNutz 02-02-2010 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6499987)
Additionally, Walter most likely didn't watch the majority of Chiefs games and didn't know that Albert was

A) Struggling with weight
B) Learning new technique.
Rinse, repeat for all of the national guys and most people constructing a mock.

Joe Douchebag sees high sack numbers and pencils in a LT, blindly moving Albert to the right side without considering if he has the makeup to allow this to be possible.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6500009)
Rinse, repeat for all of the national guys and most people constructing a mock.

Joe Douchebag sees high sack numbers and pencils in a LT, blindly moving Albert to the right side without considering if he has the makeup to allow this to be possible.
Bingo.

Or, it could be, like I think it is in Walter's case, that people think our GM is a ****ing dumbshit, and mock the dumbest possible move.

DeezNutz 02-02-2010 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6500022)
Bingo.

Or, it could be, like I think it is in Walter's case, that people think our GM is a ****ing dumbshit, and mock the dumbest possible move.
Agreed. Dude can't let an update pass without taking a shot at Dayton Pioli.

ChiefsCountry 02-02-2010 06:05 PM
Here is the argument for taking a LT - A) Albert dies or B) Albert suffers a Sly Morris or Percy Snow type injury this off season. That is it. Besides all of the LT's in this draft do not have the ceiling that Albert has.

Mecca 02-02-2010 06:16 PM
I like how he posted a guy calling Okung safe as a positive. Lets get all jazzed up about a guy who is basically described as not being a great athlete or an elite prospect but he's safe. Drafting a black John Tait at 5 man lets get pumped!

And for that other point, you could put Cassel behind the Chiefs line Green had and he'd still get sacked 40 times, it's who he is.

WildTurkey 02-02-2010 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6500057)
I like how he posted a guy calling Okung safe as a positive. Lets get all jazzed up about a guy who is basically described as not being a great athlete or an elite prospect but he's safe. Drafting a black John Tait at 5 man lets get pumped!

And for that other point, you could put Cassel behind the Chiefs line Green had and he'd still get sacked 40 times, it's who he is.
"Black" John Tait... I like that.. I think that is how I will refer to Okung from now on..... rep

WildTurkey 02-02-2010 06:32 PM
You know since this team has so few holes to fill lets pick a player in the top 5 at a position where we actually have a talented player... makes sense to me

Mecca 02-02-2010 06:33 PM
Hell lets draft Charles Brown with are high 2nd rounder, you can never have to many LT's.

WildTurkey 02-02-2010 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6500110)
Hell lets draft Charles Brown with are high 2nd rounder, you can never have to many LT's.
I was thinking trade our 2 second round picks to move back up in the first so we can take Bulaga as well as Okung.... JIMP :D

DeezNutz 02-02-2010 06:38 PM
FFS, that is a distracting ****ing sig.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6500120)
FFS, that is a distracting ****ing sig.
Too bad it's an old iPod.

A Shuffle would be more appropriate.

BossChief 02-02-2010 06:42 PM
No player in this draft at LT is

a) as good a prospect as Albert for the position.
b) as good at his position as Berry, McClain or at least five others are at theirs.

At 5, we have to get a player that a rare prospect that has a chance at being an all pro at his position and make the team around him better and Okung isnt that guy. Not from what Ive seen.

WildTurkey 02-02-2010 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6500123)
Too bad it's an old iPod.

A Shuffle would be more appropriate.
a Shuffle would be nice but I would settle for a nano


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