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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6524100)

Honestly, I don't recall seeing Brady doing a lot of that when Weis was there. I think he is just coaching to his teams advantage in this case.

I can remember seeing it. Quinn used to throw it up to Samardzija and Stovall all of the time. It usually ended up in a defensive pass interference call.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6524100)

Honestly, I don't recall seeing Brady doing a lot of that when Weis was there. I think he is just coaching to his teams advantage in this case.

I agree. We don't have the receivers to do this like they did at ND against far inferior defenses.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6524109)

I can remember seeing it. Quinn used to throw it up to Samardzija and Stovall all of the time. It usually ended up in a defensive pass interference call.

You remember seeing Brady throw it up Troy Brown?

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6524109)

I can remember seeing it. Quinn used to throw it up to Samardzija and Stovall all of the time. It usually ended up in a defensive pass interference call.

Yeah its a lot easier to do it in college.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6524111)

You remember seeing Brady throw it up Troy Brown?

I meant Brady Quinn.....you meant Tom Brady.

That would be why I said Quinn and not Brady.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6524095)

Agreed. He's a great college QB, but Danny Wuerffel was a better pro prospect IMO coming out of Florida then Tebow.

lots of great college players have no business in the nfl...just a fact

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6524103)

Okay, I hate when people make comparisons like I'm making here but, this scouting report:could be a huge hint that people are just brushing off. I seem to recall a similar one that was brushed off:
Ryan Leaf
"However, there appears to be some minor nagging questions in the area of maturity and his mental approach to the game. He is perceived as not always an easy guy to work with, and he tends to beat to his own drummer...As good as he is, he can have some streaks on the field where he looks like he has forgotten everything he has been taught...There seems to be a nagging question here that something might be missing, but it may be hard to verbalize it..."

Comparing just those scouting reports, this combined with everything I've read or heard in the past about his leadership sounds a little more like:
Peyton Manning
"He has had a storybook college career, and has been in a top level program with excellent coaching, and he has maturity and great intangibles to go along with his natural skills.. He should be able to pick up the mental aspects of the game early on the NFL level, and should play very quickly. He has great overall field vision. He is a fierce competitor, and all of his mechanics are very solid. He has good arm strength, but not necessarily a “gun” that you might expect from a QB at the top of the draft. At times he gives the appearance of being a self-made player, and sometimes those types of players don’t always go on to great NFL careers. In Manning’s case, he may be a solid and productive NFL QB, but he may not have Hall of Fame type skills, but it certainly won’t be for lack of effort".

i worry a little bit about it too....and look at cutler, dude has talent but something about his personality has always seemed off, where as guys like Brees, Rivers, Manning, etc command their teams w/o question..

This is a tough call but from what I've seen I'll take Hiller, LeFevour and even Perrilloux over those two.

I would take Clausen on this team in a heartbeat.

From the sounds of this its looking like Bradford could be heading to St Louis.

Would Washington take Clausen or are they more likely to take Berry if Bradford is off the board?
1. Bradford
2. Suh
3. McCoy
4. Clausen
5. Berry?

If St. Louis goes Bradford than I have a feeling that Suh and McCoy are going next. Washington is interesting. They could go Clausen or they could go best OT. Washington's offensive line is old.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6524093)

Being a ND fan...I hated seeing this. Clausen is not going to be able to get away with this in the NFL. I'm hoping that Weis doesn't try and get Cassel to do this.

So you don't call having your QB throw a hail mary from the 26 yard line throwing it up for grabs?

if cassel is throwing it up we better get some wrs
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6523951)

Matt Schaub has a MUCH stronger arm than Bradford.

Bradford should go to a dink-and-dunk WCO, whereas Schaub can stretch the field.

Other than being injury prone, I don't see the comparison.

What I saw of Bradford when Oklahoma lost the National Championship game to Florida last year left me very impressed with his downfield accuracy. He seemed to be throwing twenty and thirty yards downfield with zip and laser-like accuracy. Looked like he could make all the throws to me. And he was threading the needle even when his receivers weren't catching the pass.

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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 6524690)

Shut it and stop with these facts and accuate observations. We on this board must be anti- Bradford, so we like to say he was only good because he just threw swing passes or had the greatest offensive line and receivers in NCAA history that were open by 15 yards every time.

Actually I'm on OU guy, but I'll tell you straight up if a player is all hype or can actually play. Bradford is an accurate QB downfield as you will find and will stand in the pocket and take a pop. He does have some durability issues, but the shots he has taken are pretty good shots. Brett Favre he is not, but Brodie Croyle he is not either.