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'Hamas' Jenkins 02-18-2010 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6542372)
It's always been a 4-6 month rehab.
Posted October 25, 2009:

Oklahoma: Bradford entering 2010 draft
The official website of the Oklahoma Sooners announced the news that NFL scouts had been expecting: Sam Bradford will undergo season-ending shoulder surgery and, assuming his rehabilitation goes as expected, will be entering the 2010 NFL Draft.

The injury -- a sprained AC joint of his right (throwing) shoulder -- initially occurred in Oklahoma's opening season loss to BYU, Bradford came back for a tune-up against Baylor, but only made it to the second offensive series for the Sooners before going down against the Texas pass rush.

The noted surgeon, Dr. James Andrews, will be performing the surgery on Wednesday. The expected rehabilitation is 4-6 months. With the draft approximately 7 months away, Bradford is hopeful to have enough time to work out for scouts prior to draft, whether at the Combine or in a personal Pro Day workout later.
Let's take the doctor's note at face value, then.

He's "ahead of schedule", but still not able to throw despite the fact that it's been 4 months.

It's bullshit doublespeak.

mylittlepony 02-18-2010 02:51 PM
I dont know how much it will do to his value. The combine is a fun event but its alot about the fans and for the players who are abit unknown to shine. Guys like Bradford will get a personal workout from any team that wants a QB and that will be 80% of the data they draft him on.

BigCatDaddy 02-18-2010 03:15 PM
Nothing much here. The top QB's usually don't go. Stafford didn't last year and Ryan didn't throw there the year before; Sanchez going was the exception to the rule.

DrRyan 02-18-2010 03:27 PM
Going to have to side with Dr. Andrews on this one Hamas. It is obvious you don't like Sam "the spread monkey" Bradford as a NFL prospect, neither do I for that matter.

What does he have to gain by working out at the combine? IMO not much. He and Clausen are the top two QBs in this draft regardless of what they do or fail to do at the combine(if they were participating which neither is) or their pro days.

Which would you choose if you had the choice for you next job interview? One that you get the chance to script and show your talents as you see fit or the one you have zero control over?

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-18-2010 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6542675)
Nothing much here. The top QB's usually don't go. Stafford didn't last year and Ryan didn't throw there the year before; Sanchez going was the exception to the rule.
Bradford's not the rock solid top QB.

The consensus 2nd QBs, Sanchez and Flacco, both threw the last two years.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-18-2010 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6542713)
Going to have to side with Dr. Andrews on this one Hamas. It is obvious you don't like Sam "the spread monkey" Bradford as a NFL prospect, neither do I for that matter.

What does he have to gain by working out at the combine? IMO not much. He and Clausen are the top two QBs in this draft regardless of what they do or fail to do at the combine(if they were participating which neither is) or their pro days.

Which would you choose if you had the choice for you next job interview? One that you get the chance to script and show your talents as you see fit or the one you have zero control over?
Everyone lamented about how much Sanchez bombed the combine (which was ****ing bullshit, BTW) and how it would kill his stock. Didn't happen.

If I have a guy who has injury and toughness questions, I don't want him skipping out on workouts to protect himself. That just raises another flag.

Bradford is a soft bitch. He always has been.

I want to see something out of a QB other than the ability to imitate Jason White and Josh Heupel.

Mecca 02-18-2010 04:11 PM
Some people are railing Clausen saying he's the 2nd QB so he should throw, even though he has a pretty serious injury he's not recovered from.

The fact is right now there is no clear cut #1 QB when one opted out the other should too.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-18-2010 04:14 PM
Bradford opted out because he can't make the throws you have to make in those workouts.

BigChiefFan 02-18-2010 04:14 PM
Bradford's accuracy is uncanny. If he could ride the pine for a year, I believe he'll be a quality QB in the league for a long time. If he's healthy, I think he's the consensus top QB.

Mecca 02-18-2010 04:15 PM
It's pretty hard to judge accuracy when he played in that system and threw to guys running wide open.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-18-2010 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6542865)
Bradford's accuracy is uncanny. If he could ride the pine for a year, I believe he'll be a quality QB in the league for a long time. If he's healthy, I think he's the consensus top QB.
Yes, he was truly amazing at lobbing 5 yard rainbows to wide open receivers while being protected by three First Team AA offensive linemen.

Of course, given the history of success of Stoops' QBs, and his otherwordly physical toughness, how could you not pass on a <del>car salesman</del> QB with that much upside?

BigCatDaddy 02-18-2010 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6542869)
It's pretty hard to judge accuracy when he played in that system and threw to guys running wide open.
This is the biggest misconception I've seen regarding him. Go watch the Florida tape and tape from the games he played this year before he go hurt. He was fitting the ball into tight spaces on well covered receivers, they just couldn't catch it because OU's receivers couldn't catch a cold this year much like the Chiefs.

BigCatDaddy 02-18-2010 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6542854)
Some people are railing Clausen saying he's the 2nd QB so he should throw, even though he has a pretty serious injury he's not recovered from.

The fact is right now there is no clear cut #1 QB when one opted out the other should too.
Both guys are slated as high picks. From a financial perspective, the smart thing to do for both them would be to throw to their guys on their home turf for the scouts. This goes for both.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-18-2010 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6543282)
they just couldn't catch it because OU's receivers couldn't catch a cold this year much like the Chiefs.
Bradford played like 7 quarters this year, reerun.

Last year, he had Iglesias, Gresham, Murray, Brown, all of whom who were great receiving threats.

BigCatDaddy 02-18-2010 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6542878)
Yes, he was truly amazing at lobbing 5 yard rainbows to wide open receivers while being protected by three First Team AA offensive linemen.

Of course, given the history of success of Stoops' QBs, and his otherwordly physical toughness, how could you not pass on a <del>car salesman</del> QB with that much upside?
See post #27. Again this is not true.


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