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Mecca 03-01-2010 12:53 AM

I'll be stunned if he breaks 4.7 which is why I don't think the Chiefs will take him.

KCrockaholic 03-01-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6562613)
Not surprised on that, I think he's a 2 down strong side backer in a 4-3 so yea not a first rounder to them.

Why do you say he fits a 4-3 better than 3-4?

KCrockaholic 03-01-2010 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6562758)
Weatherspoon is a better prospect.

I like McClain, but this is 100% correct, Mizzou homer or not, Weatherspoon is the ****in man!

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6566555)
Why do you say he fits a 4-3 better than 3-4?

He's saying that's what he'd play in a 4-3. He doesn't have the speed and penetration of a 4-3 ILB. (Darryl Washington, Pat Angerer from this draft class as examples.) And he'd be limited to the first two downs in a 4-3 as the SSOLB because he doesn't have superior cover skills of guys like Derrick Johnson and Aaron Curry when they came out of college.

KCrockaholic 03-01-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6566560)
He's saying that's what he'd play in a 4-3. He doesn't have the speed and penetration of a 4-3 ILB. (Darryl Washington, Pat Angerer from this draft class as examples.) And he'd be limited to the first two downs in a 4-3 as the SSOLB because he doesn't have superior cover skills of guys like Derrick Johnson and Aaron Curry when they came out of college.

Alright gotcha. My mind takes much longer to process information when I'm tired, if you can't tell

BossChief 03-01-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6566525)
So now your support comes with a caveat? That the only way you'll want him for the Chiefs now is if he runs a 4.5? Aaron Curry and Jerod Mayo didn't run a 4.5. (Both ran a 4.56 to be exact.) And they were both considered athletic freaks for their size. McClain is going to have to channel the ghosts of combines past and summon up Kawika Mitchell to run a 4.5 40, especially with his length and weight.

So, whose going to be in your sig on Tuesday?

Of course it has a caveat. In college, linebackers can excel and run a damn 4.8, that same linebacker gets killed in the NFL and 4.7 is pretty close to the cutoff for very good to just good. In college games, his straight line speed isnt used as much as it likely will in the NFL and while I dont expect Pat Willis speed, I do expect above average speed size ratio. The only sites I frequent often concerning the draft have him listed as a projected 40 of 4.5-4.55, how off do you guys think that truly is?

Guess we'll find out today huh?

I hope he exceeds expectations and gets his 4.55
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6566529)
Keith Rivers ran 4.5

Generally speaking for a LB to worth a top 10 pick he needs to be a clean prospect.

can you explain "clean" for me and Im sure a few others that cant recall the term being used. I think you mean the player has to have a clean history with the law and have certain minimums that must be acheived in speed, strength, quickness and other catergories to be considered that high?

KCrockaholic 03-01-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6566571)


can you explain "clean" for me and Im sure a few others that cant recall the term being used. I think you mean the player has to have a clean history with the law and have certain minimums that must be acheived in speed, strength, quickness and other catergories to be considered that high?

I think this is what he means. That is what I kind of got from it.

Mecca 03-01-2010 01:17 AM

That's basically what it is.

BossChief 03-01-2010 01:22 AM

Heres a bombshell Im sure will go over well.

I would trade the pick right now, straight up, for Orakpo if I knew Berry and Clausen werent gonna be the picks for whatever reason.

Its gonna piss me off for quite some time that we arent gonna be looking for passrushers, he will be very very special.

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 01:25 AM

Like I said, if he runs a 4.7 or below at his length and weight, I'll be impressed. I expect a 4.75 to a 4.85 in reality. Frankly, I don't give a shit about the 40 anyway. I'm more interested in the agility drills, particularly for guys like the linebackers. They only guys who ever come close to ever going in a straight line on the football field are receivers and defensive backs. The 40 at the combine is very misleading anyway as it's easy to train for and it doesn't translate to the field in pads. (Perfect example recently is Brandon Flowers. If the guy runs two tenths of a second faster, he's a mid-first round pick. I mean, really? Two-tenths of a second? It's not shit, and doesn't take into account instinct, hip and foot speed, etc.)

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6566579)
Heres a bombshell Im sure will go over well.

I would trade the pick right now, straight up, for Orakpo if I knew Berry and Clausen werent gonna be the picks for whatever reason.

Its gonna piss me off for quite some time that we arent gonna be looking for passrushers, he will be very very special.

Holy shit!!!

Did you hear that Mecca?!

Time to get out your:

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Mecca 03-01-2010 01:31 AM

You should probably look at my new mock I did.

Titty Meat 03-01-2010 01:43 AM

lol McClain is this years Curry and people are still trying to defend drafting him.

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6566588)
You should probably look at my new mock I did.

I did. I saw you came around on

http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCT...0/10102407.jpg

for the Raiders. I haven't checked out your edits since then though. I'll go peruse your picks right now.

Saccopoo 03-01-2010 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6566600)
lol McClain is this years Curry and people are still trying to defend drafting him.

He's nowhere near as athletic as Curry. He's a pure mike backer. Curry has the athleticism to play a lot of positions, though he's best suited for a SSOLB spot to take advantage of his ball and cover skills. Curry would waste a lot of his instincts and athleticism if he was to be inside at the MLB spot in a 3-4. Curry was a better version of Derrick Johnson.

McClain is this years Tyson Jackson. A safe, but unspectacular pick that will be a solid player who should have a chance to play in the league for a long time. He's a run plugger in a 3-4 and has enough athleticism and length to be a three down guy in a 3-4, but he's scheme limited IMO.


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