The combine is extremely important for outside players, if you're a WR or a DB and you post a 4.7 you just killed yourself.

For most everyone else it's not that big of a deal.

I was watching part of the combine and one of the guys on NFL Network made a good point about running the 40. He said it really isn't a true measurement since the way they are running is not how they would run on the football field. I totally agree with that thinking.

It's not you can shave a couple tenths off your time by practicing how to start, but you need to post a certain time to be a "clean" prospect for a certain position.

Like a OT 40 is essentially useless I doubt any team moves linemen because of 40's CB's and WR's yea I think that happens.

There is no question it happens. Every year a player really helps or hurts himself with their 40 time.

I just thought it was an interesting point and it was brought up because Tate ran a 4.36 and most scouts\GM's think he is a 4.5 guy on the football field.

Tate probably helped himself some because it's such a blah RB class.

What the **** are you talking about?

I stated that they are ALL factors.

Where did I point out that one was more important than another?

Learn how to ****ing READ before insulting others, Prick.

I bet Tate ends up going top 25...

I could see 21 to Cincy, 22 to New England or 25 to Baltimore.

Golden Tate's biggest problem is his height makes numerous teams think he's not an outside player.

The strange thing about Golden Tate, as I watch him, he doesn't play like a small player. He plays like he's 6'3.

I bet that Jimmy Graham cat ends up being a perennial pro bowl NFL TE...

I've always held firmly in my belief that NBA players would be superior to a lot of NFL players at WR and TE...just more athletically gifted.

This dude realizes he's a pretty good basketball player but not NBA caliber, switches to football, and now with NFL coaching he's going to be Gates version 2.0...

That dude looked like a freak when I was watching the combine.

Where did that thread indicate anything that said Pioli knew who he was drafting already? Nuthooks.

And is it just me, or does WPI have a NY Giants fan for a moderator on their forums? Yeesh.

I don't get why everyone doesn't already get it...

Pioli and the crew are going to make at least 3 or 4 head scratching draft picks that go against the "experts" projections just like they did every year in New England and the first year in Kansas City...

Which is why Lebron James should go to the NFL :)

That really makes my day seeing how awful NE's drafts have been for about 6 years now.

and everyone is going to bitch and moan and yearn for Carl and Herm and then eventually as we continue to fail Pioli will go and someone else will come in down the line and then we're going to bitch and moan and yearn for whoever it is that is winning at the time etc. etc. etc.