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'Hamas' Jenkins 03-03-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danman (Post 6572694)
Thanks for the mock kcrockaholic. That's pretty good for round 1, please post more.




Tough choice. I'm a Mizzou homer, but our biggest need is NT- I go Cody

:spock:

You take Weatherspoon.

KCrockaholic 03-03-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6572367)
Is Jamal Borwn a free agent?

Bushrod actually played pretty well over the course of the season in place of Brown, and if Brown's back, Bushrod is solid depth.

Overall, it's a pretty good draft, but I do question this pick.

I think Jammal Brown is still there. He is extremely injury prone. He's not listed on their depth chart page though. But I dont know what your talking about with Bushrod man...That guy is just as bad as McIntosh was with us. He allowed 9 sacks, and allowed 34 pressures on Brees. He single handedly cost the Saints their undefeated record by totally choking against Ware. Charles Brown can add good depth and solid production if Brown goes down again or Stinchcomb. The Saints don't have a ton of holes. I almost took a LB for them, but Charles Brown is a solid pick for them at that spot.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-03-2010 04:02 PM

Good job man.

milkman 03-03-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6573127)
I think Jammal Brown is still there. He is extremely injury prone. He's not listed on their depth chart page though. But I dont know what your talking about with Bushrod man...That guy is just as bad as McIntosh was with us. He allowed 9 sacks, and allowed 34 pressures on Brees. He single handedly cost the Saints their undefeated record by totally choking against Ware. Charles Brown can add good depth and solid production if Brown goes down again or Stinchcomb. The Saints don't have a ton of holes. I almost took a LB for them, but Charles Brown is a solid pick for them at that spot.

You shouldn't be using your first round pick to select players that provide depth, even if you're picking 32nd overall.

First round picks should be guys that you see as potential starters.

KCrockaholic 03-03-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6573593)
You shouldn't be using your first round pick to select players that provide depth, even if you're picking 32nd overall.

First round picks should be guys that you see as potential starters.

I agree, but in the Saints case who would have been a better pick? Who could start for them right away?

MahiMike 03-03-2010 07:13 PM

I think what's gonna mess up everybody's draft boards is that STL ends up getting one of Philly's QB's.

KCrockaholic 03-03-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 6573996)
I think what's gonna mess up everybody's draft boards is that STL ends up getting one of Philly's QB's.

That would suck. It would be a fail for St. Louis to make that move. They are not a team that is ready to win now. They need a young QB to take over and eventually lead them on the right path. Detroit did the right thing by taking Stafford.

milkman 03-03-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6573692)
I agree, but in the Saints case who would have been a better pick? Who could start for them right away?

Not sure when looking at the picks ahead again.

They could use help at DE, but you have Carlos Dunlop going before here, so Everson Griffin.

There aren't any safeties I'd take there, and they might need one.

And an OLB like Daryl Washington might be a consideration, though a little high.

I guess I'd have to stick with Griffin here.

KCrockaholic 03-03-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6574705)
Not sure when looking at the picks ahead again.

They could use help at DE, but you have Carlos Dunlop going before here, so Everson Griffin.

There aren't any safeties I'd take there, and they might need one.

And an OLB like Daryl Washington might be a consideration, though a little high.

I guess I'd have to stick with Griffin here.

Griffen would be a decent pick. He would probably replace Bobby McCray, opposite of Will Smith. But does the need of Griffen outway the value of Charles Brown would be my question. But yeah, I could see that.

KCrockaholic 03-03-2010 11:32 PM

Alright I updated the mock with my Chiefs mock.

Nightfyre 03-04-2010 12:10 AM

Being that somehow my thread posting privileges got revoked, I will just hijack kcrockaholic's thread. Sorry. I had no choice.

This is how I hope it falls. PS I know Berry falling to 9 is a reach. Please look past it as a pipe dream.

First three rounds of Chiefs' draft:
Trade down with Buffalo (1.5 for 1.9 + 3.8 + 4.9)
1.9) Eric Berry, FS, Tennessee

KC is pleasantly surprised when the draft falls as such:
1) STL - Bradford
2) DET - Suh
3) TB - McCoy
4) WAS - Okung
5) BUF - Clausen
6) SEA - Campbell
7) CLE - Haden
8) OAK - Mays

KC initially makes this trade to add picks and secure Williams, but Berry is just too valuable to pass up.

2.4) Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU

KC snags arguably the best combination of potential and preparedness for 3-4 OLB.

2.18) Damian Williams, WR, USC

Williams is fast, a cutthroat route runner and has soft hands. Now Haley must teach him body control.

3.4) Reshad Jones, SS, Georgia

Reshad Jones in the third is high bang for your buck. Quite a physical specimen with experience facing tough competition.

3.8) Jamar Chaney, ILB, Mississippi State

His stock is fast rising, but he may still be available here.

4.4) Sam Young, OT, Notre Dame

Should know the scheme and be able to come in and transition rapidly.

4.9) Joseph Linvall, NT, East Carolina

Undersung, Linvall is a freak.

5.5) Eric Olsen, C, Notre Dame

Another player who can come in with experience in the scheme and quickly make the transtion. Olsen also brings versatility.

5.11) CJ Wilson, DE, East Carolina

A project, somewhat inconsistent at the college level.

5.13) Marcus Easley, WR, Connecticut

A player with athleticism and the "right-53" mentality.

KCrockaholic 03-04-2010 12:18 AM

Does this mean I can neg rep you and it be ok?

Nightfyre 03-04-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6575009)
Does this mean I can neg rep you and it be ok?

I dont give a damn! ;)

KCrockaholic 03-04-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6575011)
I dont give a damn! ;)

lol, alright...Is this now the first ever co-owned thread?

Danman 03-04-2010 11:04 AM

Nightfyre,

Thanks for the mock. It's hard to predict trades in the draft. While I can see your point in the scenrio you gave, I think it's more likely that another team trades up to get Berry if we move back. If Berry's the top man on your board, you gotta take him when you get the chance.

Hughes and Jones would be great picks for wher they're taken. Our defense looks a lot different by adding those three palyers and saftey's fixed for the next 10 years.


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