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OnTheWarpath15 03-08-2010 07:57 AM
It's not that Clark is cheap, it's that he spends his money foolishly.

Consider the 5 highest paid people in the organization:

Cassel
Pioli
Haley
Weis
Crennel

A shitty QB and 4 in management.

Maybe after this year, Clark will realize that having a supposed All-Star coaching staff means nothing if they are coaching 53 scrubs.

MGRS13 03-08-2010 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6586522)
okay, so in your opinion which FA should they have signed?
Pashos and Walter. I would at least consider a deal or two to see if there is a way to get Atgowe and Gaither. They need to do something they are a 2-4 win team that hasn't upgraded the roster and has proven in the past they are not able to draft worth a crap.

Rausch 03-08-2010 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6586524)
In fairness, 10-38 over the past 3 seasons tells me they are fairly incompetent.
And I think the argument could be made that the talent we had on those teams should have had us near the .500 mark. No, they weren't playoff teams but they were much more talented than 2-4 win seasons...

jrowe 03-08-2010 08:26 AM
The issue isn't the amount of money spent. It's how you spend it in free agency. Chiefs are clearly in a building mode. You can't build through free agency. You can add some timely peices to an already solid foundation. Right now, the chiefs lack that foundation. Any big spending in free agency at this point is like putting the cart before the horse.

Once you have a foundation or the core of the team, then you supplement in free agency. The chiefs would be foolish to chase the 30 year old big name players in free agency. If they can add some young ascending talent, then that's where they need to spend the money. Unfortunately, that is rarely available.

Deberg_1990 03-08-2010 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6586539)
And I think the argument could be made that the talent we had on those teams should have had us near the .500 mark. No, they weren't playoff teams but they were much more talented than 2-4 win seasons...
I wouldnt say that. They are what they are. The organization has been awful at talent evaluation for quite some time.

Rausch 03-08-2010 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jrowe (Post 6586540)
The issue isn't the amount of money spent. It's how you spend it in free agency. Chiefs are clearly in a building mode. You can't build through free agency.
You have to properly utilize EVERY aspect of acquiring players.

YES, that does include free agency.

The Jets signed free agents that finished off their line and TRich to solidify a blocking unit that could run and pass protect. The key was that they were selective and targeted the best players out there at the positions of biggest need.

Doing this gives you options come draft time...

Rausch 03-08-2010 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6586559)
I wouldnt say that. They are what they are. The organization has been awful at talent evaluation for quite some time.
Stupid coaching decisions, poor clock management, and the inability to make halftime adjustments cost us multiple games each season over the last 3 years.

To me, that's all coaching...

RedThat 03-08-2010 09:13 AM
Good article.

I would like to comment, when Herm got hired here, I recall him saying, "you don't have to have the best team on paper to win."

When Pioli got hired, it was, "were looking for the right 53."

I think these men are the voice behind the curtain that are speaking for Clark.

wild1 03-08-2010 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6586501)
we need a cock chugging sound effect to accompy the wpi spam that gets posted here...

Does Clark just email his propaganda to WPI, or does WPI fashion the articles from Clark's talking points?

fans only care about "Big $$ FA" canard - check
no talent in FA lie - check
fans don't appreciate our big rich brains - check


the most lmao part is the suggestion that our $5 mill a year GM simply doesn't think there is any talent worth Clark's money in FA....

Clark is a tight wad loser, and proof is that he owns wpi...

ROFL

the Chiefs problem is the fans "perception"...not the REALITY, just the 'perception' that franchise is incompetent and cheap....how clueless do you have to be to write, or actually believe that?
They are really trying hard to earn their credentials back. (not that they ever had any "credentials")

TEX 03-08-2010 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6586513)
How do you know we didn't pursue them?
Posted via Mobile Device
One can always have this kind of response. The answer is that over time, a team will sign some players IF they are seriously trying. There has been plenty of time over the years, and plenty of time to measure the results, and it has led to one of the worst records in the NFL.

Mr. Laz 03-08-2010 09:32 AM
good article


there is no excuse for not being more active in free agency ... none. Does that mean they have to sign Julius Peppers type guys? Of course not, but there are several quality free agents out there that won't cost that kind of money.

signing another bunch of ragtag players off the scrap heap is not acceptable.

-King- 03-08-2010 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6586635)
One can always have this kind of response. The answer is that over time, a team will sign some players IF they are seriously trying. There has been plenty of time over the years, and plenty of time to measure the results, and it has led to one of the worst records in the NFL.
So we should have paid more than 42 mil to peppers for the next 3 yrs?
Posted via Mobile Device

Rausch 03-08-2010 09:35 AM
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Accurate or not, the longer people feel that saving money is more important than winning, the greater the risk that they’ll start to disconnect themselves from the team.
This should always, without question, be true.

And by that I mean from the fan's perspective...

Frazod 03-08-2010 09:36 AM
My perception? He's a spoiled trust fund baby from another state who probably spends three days a year in Kansas City and cares more about soccer than football. Too bad we don't have any local billionaires who actually care about winning for him to sell to.

warrior 03-08-2010 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6586660)
My perception? He's a spoiled trust fund baby from another state who probably spends three days a year in Kansas City and cares more about soccer than football. Too bad we don't have any local billionaires who actually care about winning for him to sell to.


At last-----Clark seems to have no passion for the Chiefs but he is pursuing
his soccer interest. :(


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